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#5971983 - 10/11/15 03:37 PM AR .223 reloaders question
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As far as dies, does anybody us the dies made specifically for AR rifles?
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#5971990 - 10/11/15 03:41 PM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I have seen small base dies as touted for ar... But are there others your talking about.

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#5972083 - 10/11/15 04:40 PM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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That's them, RCBS makes a set for AR's
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#5972087 - 10/11/15 04:43 PM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Small base dies run further down the case wall.


For most brass it's not needed but mil surplus brass fired out of machine guns need it because the chamber is so large.

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#5972092 - 10/11/15 04:45 PM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Haven't used them. They are needed if the brass is expanded too much in the web area which can happen for several reasons including early unlocking of the bolt, over sixed chamber. Most of the time I do not think they are needed.
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#5972903 - 10/12/15 03:04 AM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I just use the small base dies as mentioned above. But most of my brass is saw brass, I'm sure.
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#5974586 - 10/12/15 09:53 PM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
BooneDog Offline
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I use the small base dies when forming 300 Bo from 223. But after 223 and 300 bo are fire formed I just use either the Lee 3 die set or hornady seaters. My reasearch led me to believe the small based dies would cut the life span of your brass down because it moves the brass so much. Unless you have a tight chambered gun.

Plus the plain Saami spec dies have been making ammo for Ars since Stoner invented the black rifle in the 60's with out any problems. Just my .02 that they are kind of a sales drive because a reloader with a 30 year old RCBS die that still works has to buy something new.

Dang it I must be a sucker because I have a some small base dies.

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#5974785 - 10/13/15 06:52 AM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I've been using Lee FL dies for some time now with no problems. I load for 6 AR's and have had 0 malfunctions. I was told if you reload for different rifles that I needed small based dies, but like I said they all operate fine.
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#5974794 - 10/13/15 06:58 AM Re: AR .223 reloaders question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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As long as it's a commercial rifle you shouldn't need small base.

If you buy mil surplus brass that's been properly resized you won't need it.


I will be interested with the semi auto saw comes out if it's needed for that.

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