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#5947517 - 09/26/15 08:43 AM Neck Size Bushing Question
Hunter Gatherer Offline
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I'm getting a slight round indentation on bullets that I seat with a Hornady die. It goes completely around the bullet. The cartridge is also encountering resistance after the bullet is seated and I'm bringing the cartridge down to remove it from the die. I can't account for an adjustment for this. It seems that maybe my neck size bushing is too tight but I don't think that there is an adjustment for this. My cases are demurred and chamfered and all cut to the correct length. Any suggestions?

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#5947665 - 09/26/15 11:08 AM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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Pics of any? I'm not following you.

If the neck tension is too tight the only thing you can do is get a different bushing.
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#5947675 - 09/26/15 11:16 AM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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Are you possibly crimping it by having the seating die improperly adjusted? Or is the indentation closer to the tip and caused by the seating stem? I don't think he's talking about a neck bushing but a seating die instead.


Edited by bo323 (09/26/15 11:17 AM)

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#5947743 - 09/26/15 12:18 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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To figure out neck tension bushing size I normally seat a bullet in the case and measure the neck just back from the mouth. Then buy two bushings that are .001 & .002 smaller...most guns will shoot one of those two but some guys will run up to .003 neck tension.

I would bet you may or may not have the right neck tension but the problem is probably you're using the wrong seating stem in your seater. You probably need a VLD stem for the bullets you're shooting. When I've had a ring around that is normally the culprit more so than the neck tension.

Good luck!
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#5947975 - 09/26/15 05:50 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Judd]
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Originally Posted By: Judd
To figure out neck tension bushing size I normally seat a bullet in the case and measure the neck just back from the mouth. Then buy two bushings that are .001 & .002 smaller...most guns will shoot one of those two but some guys will run up to .003 neck tension.

I would bet you may or may not have the right neck tension but the problem is probably you're using the wrong seating stem in your seater. You probably need a VLD stem for the bullets you're shooting. When I've had a ring around that is normally the culprit more so than the neck tension.

Good luck!


I'm using VLD bullets from Berger so that's probably a step in the right direction.

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#5947980 - 09/26/15 05:56 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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The VLD is s long bullet and needs a deeper seating stem. That's what's causing the ring on the bullet. The fact that is getting stuck is more than likely high neck tension

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#5948118 - 09/26/15 07:50 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
Hunter Gatherer Offline
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What seating stem is normally used for the VLD's? Can you order the stem as a single piece and just replace the one that comes in the die?

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#5948374 - 09/26/15 11:00 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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Yes, you can order just the stem. Call and talk to Hornady and based upon my past experience they will probably just send it to you. One thing you can check...it sounds like you have the match dies. Under the small piece of foam is sometimes another seating stem...try that one because they are normally different and will have both in the box.

http://www.hornady.com/store/Miscellaneous-Die-Accessories/?page=2

They call them a custom seating stem...Wilson calls them VLD drift stems.
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#5948813 - 09/27/15 11:34 AM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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What you are getting is from the seating stem making a ring around the bullet where it puts pressure on the bullet during seating. What caliber are you running, and what brass? Also, do u have a compressed load? Can you calculate how much neck tension you have on the brass?

Hornady does make a VLD or match seating stem that you may need. You may also have too much neck tension on the brass. But I need more info to help diagnose you issue.
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#5949403 - 09/27/15 06:55 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
Hunter Gatherer Offline
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25-06, with once fired federal brass. I don't think that there is any reason to think I've got a compressed load at this point. I don't know how to calculate neck tension yet, but point me in the right direction and I'll do it. I appreciate the help. I should also mention that I'm working with the minimum recommended powder charge right now, so there is definitely room in the case.


Edited by Hunter Gatherer (09/27/15 06:56 PM)

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#5949414 - 09/27/15 06:59 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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Question for you- why do you want to neck size a 25-06? Also, if you are running a Berger VLD, then you are running the 115 VLD. If you are running minimum charges with it, and running a slower burning powder, it won't shoot very well.
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#5949434 - 09/27/15 07:12 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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OK I'm somewhat confused. I'm not neck sizing. I'm sizing full length. This is my very first load ever, so I was just starting out with the lowest load given in Berger's manual. I fully intend to ramp it up. I mentioned in my original question that my neck size bushing might not be right, but I could have been using incorrect terminology (please have patience with me). I just have standard off the shelf Hornady custom full length dies in 25-06.

Also, my main reason for reloading is being able to use the bullets I want for several calibers for hunting. I consider hunting ranges for me to be 300 yards and less. Normally, I can get within 200 yards of anything I hunt other than elk. Thus, I don't need to be able to put everything through the same hole. I almost never shoot off a bench other than for sighting in. For me, it's all about bullet selection for different applications. I relate this only to say that I'll never shoot 900 yards unless there is a T-Rex after me.

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#5949444 - 09/27/15 07:19 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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I believe your terminology is incorrect as based on the info given there should not be a bushing involved in the process you are performing which is just a simple full length resize.
As others stated above you just need another bullet seating stem designed for AMax / VLD style bullets.
The ring you are seeing is only cosmetic and will not be detrimental to performance based off the your planned use.

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#5949457 - 09/27/15 07:23 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
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Yes, I'm not understanding exactly what your asking. I also run the Hornady FL dies, and use the 115 Berger all the time with these dies, and they work fine.
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#5949463 - 09/27/15 07:26 PM Re: Neck Size Bushing Question [Re: Hunter Gatherer]
Hunter Gatherer Offline
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I may not even have a problem. I just thought it was odd to see a ring around the bullet like this. Really that's the question. Is seeing a ring around the bullet an indication of a problem? They seat just fine, and I'm doing it exactly as Berger recommends in their manual.

Also, I may not even need to reload. There's this place I recently discovered called Custom Reloads of Dallas that I might just start using...

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