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Re: 9mm vs 40 cal [Re: BOBO the Clown] #5972712 10/12/15 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: kry226
I'm amazed at the number of experts in this thread. slinger


I'm amazed at the number of people in this thread who are so easily trolled.

Cmon guys.

I was just exaggerating all the nonsense weve heard over the years. Maybe giving answers that were as silly as the original question.

In my non expert opinion, you put a couple of rounds of anything .38 cal and above into a target, you will be fine. Center mass, multiple rounds, you are going to have a bad guy suddenly very unmotivated.


380 is actual a .357 bullet as is the 9mm and 38 special wink


Wasn't sure how I wanted to word that. I knew that was the case, but I figured y'all would know what I was getting at.


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Re: 9mm vs 40 cal [Re: robert01] #5972750 10/12/15 03:07 AM
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Re: 9mm vs 40 cal [Re: robert01] #5972902 10/12/15 08:03 AM
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As far as exaggeration, it would be funny if so many people didn't use the same words as serious points to this ridiculous argument. And I mean they're DEAD SERIOUS about it. As such, people are so far out there flapping on this argument that you really don't know if someone's joking or not. (But I still laugh at the ridiculous pontifications). grin


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Re: 9mm vs 40 cal [Re: kry226] #5972931 10/12/15 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: kry226
As far as exaggeration, it would be funny if so many people didn't use the same words as serious points to this ridiculous argument. And I mean they're DEAD SERIOUS about it. As such, people are so far out there flapping on this argument that you really don't know if someone's joking or not. (But I still laugh at the ridiculous pontifications). grin


And that was my point with the whole thing. I see bumper stickers like, I have a .45 because shooting twice is dumb, or I've heard people say, I carry a 22 pistol as a ccw because I can put every round into a 2 inch group at 15 yards. I know people who refuse to carry a 9mm because it doesn't have enough "knock down power".

Carry or use what you are comfortable with, and what is comfortable to carry. I happen to carry a s&w shield in .40 but I'd be just as comfortable carrying a 9mm or .380acp or .38 special.


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Re: 9mm vs 40 cal [Re: bull279] #5977183 10/14/15 04:39 PM
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.22lr has exponentially more power than a .380


I am going to have to ask you to clarify this statement.

The information I pulled off the web could be contested so I pulled up bullet information from my Winchester Ballistics Calculator App

.380 ACP 95gr FMJ target round - Muzzle - 950 fps 190 ft/lbs
50 yds - 886 fps 166 ft/lbs

.22LR (fired from pistol) 40gr Lead Round Nose
Muzzle - 1060 fps 100 ft/lbs
50 yds - 980 fps 85 ft/lbs

and just for comparison

.22LR (fired from rifle) 40gr Lead Round Nose
Muzzle - 770 fps 38 ft/lbs
50 yds - 680 fps 30 ft/lbs

I am failing to see how the .22LR is "exponentially" more powerful than the .380 ACP

Would you please explain your answer so I can understand what you mean?

And FYI... we hauled my old washing machine to my father's scrap metal pile after it quit working. I shot it with my .380 and it had no trouble penetrating the sheet metal body and then the ceramic-coated, metal wash tub. It almost was able to penetrate out of the other side of the wash tub. My 45 penetrated the same distance through the washer. The 45 came closer to punching through the other side of the wash tub than the .380 did. But I really thing that the statement that a .380 can't penetrate denim is a gross understatement of power.

How is the .22 rifle slower than the pistol?


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Re: 9mm vs 40 cal [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #5977587 10/14/15 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
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.22lr has exponentially more power than a .380


I am going to have to ask you to clarify this statement.

The information I pulled off the web could be contested so I pulled up bullet information from my Winchester Ballistics Calculator App

.380 ACP 95gr FMJ target round - Muzzle - 950 fps 190 ft/lbs
50 yds - 886 fps 166 ft/lbs

.22LR (fired from pistol) 40gr Lead Round Nose
Muzzle - 1060 fps 100 ft/lbs
50 yds - 980 fps 85 ft/lbs

and just for comparison

.22LR (fired from rifle) 40gr Lead Round Nose
Muzzle - 770 fps 38 ft/lbs
50 yds - 680 fps 30 ft/lbs

I am failing to see how the .22LR is "exponentially" more powerful than the .380 ACP

Would you please explain your answer so I can understand what you mean?

And FYI... we hauled my old washing machine to my father's scrap metal pile after it quit working. I shot it with my .380 and it had no trouble penetrating the sheet metal body and then the ceramic-coated, metal wash tub. It almost was able to penetrate out of the other side of the wash tub. My 45 penetrated the same distance through the washer. The 45 came closer to punching through the other side of the wash tub than the .380 did. But I really thing that the statement that a .380 can't penetrate denim is a gross understatement of power.

How is the .22 rifle slower than the pistol?

The longer the barrel the more friction on the bullet, thus it comes out slower.








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