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#5931623 - 09/16/15 01:31 PM Swarovski vs Ziess
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I was wondering if anyone has looked through these and could tell me if one is better than other or if it's just a toss up.

Swarovski 6-18x50 Habict
Ziess 3-15x50 Conquest HD

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#5931670 - 09/16/15 02:10 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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I would bet the swaro kicks the crap out of that zeiss hands down

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#5931702 - 09/16/15 02:30 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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I don't want to sound like a d-bag but I've got both and my Swarorvski's really are clearer and brighter in low light conditions. Most hours of the day my old eyes can't tell a difference. The first and last 30 minutes of light in a day is when I can see the difference! Baker

Just so I'm clear with my point let me add, the Zeiss is some great glass and I've still got 2 Conquest mounted on rifles and I have no intention on replacing them with anything but the light gathering capabilities are not equal to the Swaro's.
I'd recommend everyone spend as much on their optics as they can. I've regretted buying several rifles and shotguns over the years but I've never had any buyer's remorse from buying quality optics!! Just my .02 cents Baker


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#5931709 - 09/16/15 02:34 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: Elkhunter49]
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That's the info I was looking for the low light conditions seems to be where most can tell the difference.

Originally Posted By: Elkhunter49
I don't want to sound like a d-bag but I've got both and my Swarorvski's really are clearer and brighter in low light conditions. Most hours of the day my old eyes can't tell a difference. The first and last 30 minutes of light in a day is when I can see the difference! Baker

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#5931793 - 09/16/15 03:27 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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Swarovski all day long,if the Zeiss was one of the higher end models then it would be close.

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#5943970 - 09/24/15 07:35 AM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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I have owned both of these scopes. The Swarovski is better in all lighting conditions expecially at higher magnification

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#5944244 - 09/24/15 10:23 AM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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Swarovski, hands down, going away.

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#5944341 - 09/24/15 10:58 AM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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Don't know much about ziess but I have looked through Swarovski and it was amazing.
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#5944416 - 09/24/15 11:29 AM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: mikei]
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Swarovski, hands down, going away.
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#5944658 - 09/24/15 01:48 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: CitySlickerHunter]
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Swarovski, hands down, going away.
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#5952198 - 09/29/15 09:21 AM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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swaro has good glass but the erector system is junk! Had bunch of trouble with the three we had. I did bunch of online research and saw I was not the only one. Dumped them ar my local shop, where i got them from. Think you pay for the swaro name. Have a couple zeiss go belly up also and it takes them several months to repair. These scopes are hunted hard.

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#5952663 - 09/29/15 01:06 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: huntandfish]
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Originally Posted By: huntandfish
swaro has good glass but the erector system is junk!


Care to elaborate on that, please? I don't understand your statement.
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#5953081 - 09/29/15 05:04 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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The three we had would not hold zero at one time or another and very erratic erector system movement. One was sent back three times in a few years. The other two took a couple trips back. I did a online search and read many reports of this happeneing and seems this is a normal occurance.

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#5954115 - 09/30/15 09:10 AM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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I guess what I'm trying to understand is, the erector jumping around? I have a couple of them, and shot many, however I have never noticed any of them jumping power. That is what the erector assembly is tied to, the power selector ring.

I have had one not hold zero, but upon further inspection, determined that one of the bases was not torqued down properly on the rifle. After taking everything apart and then re-installing the Z3 4-12X50 back on a .300 Win Mag it works flawlessly now.

The only complaint that I have heard from being in this industry it people wanting to use Swarovski hunting scopes, like tactical scopes. I mean going to the range, and dialing their shots repeatedly. They are not tactical products. Simply put, Swarovski manufactures a riflescope for the sole purpose of hunting.

I'm not saying your wrong, but I think the definitions are wrong. The erector controls the power used.



Illustrated in the video above, within the optical design, you see the erector attached to the power selector ring, allowing for variable scopes to transition magnification from one end of the spectrum to the opposite end.
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#5955102 - 09/30/15 06:34 PM Re: Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: slayer12]
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The Swarovski scopes I have used, I use like I'm walking on egg shells. I personally have broken 2 of the high end one's when dialing them in. Swarovski puts the color coded rings on them to be dialed for distance, and hunters want this. So, I have a lot of customers bring me this set up, and you have to set these color coded rings when dialing the scope out to 400-500 yards. They have a very small amount of internal elevation travel already. So, you have to make sure you have the correct bases to account for a good zero, and some elevation.

Sure, the Swarovski glass is great and clear. But WTF does good glass do for you if the internals take a dump. I'm not a fan of the Swarovski scopes, no matter how good the glass is. I need gear that will hold up to my shooting and uses. I see a lot of gear and shoot probably 100x more than the average shooter.

I waited to comment on this thread to see what direction it went. But there are 2 scopes you will never find on my rifle, and that's a Swarovski or a Ziess (unless it's a Hensoldt)
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