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25.06
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09/14/15 11:07 PM
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Looking at a Thomson Center in 25.06, what can/should/could I expect out of the round?
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: 25.06
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09/14/15 11:56 PM
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The round itself will do just about anything you want it to up to and including elk. It's flat shooting and hits above its' weight. What barrel length TC?
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 12:19 AM
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The round itself will do just about anything you want it to up to and including elk. It's flat shooting and hits above its' weight. What barrel length TC? This^^^. The long range guys don't like it because of the low availability of high BC bullets. But for out to 400-500 yards, it is flat nasty. Most guys think that a longer barrel (24"+) is a necessity, but I push 115gr NBTs and 117gr SGKs to 3050 FPS with no pressure signs or excessive muzzle flash with my 22" barrel.
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 12:31 AM
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What twist rate are most factory barrels ?
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 01:05 AM
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Don't remember the twist rate but is good for bullets 120 and below for the standard twist.
The TC Venture in 25-06 should be a good lesser expensive hunting gun. Like mentioned above the bullets for the quarter bore are not the dream of long range guys but for most 500 yards is very long range and the 25-06 will do that very nicely
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 01:35 AM
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Most barrels are 1-10". I have two right now, both with 1-10" barrels. One has between 3500-4000 rounds through it and the other only has 2000 or so (without looking in my load books). I've had good to great accuracy with 100 - 120 gr bullets and either IMR 4831 or H4831. Currently I have 2 loads going - RL 19 and the 110 gr AB and 7828ssc and the 117 SGK. I have taken too many deer to count since I got the first one in 1974. 2 elk with 120 gr Nos Partitions and a couple of dozen mule deer from NM and Wyoming and two bruisers in Idaho. Longest measured, witnessed shot was 576 yards on a hill country whitetail. As stated above, they are harder-hitting than their caliber belies, accurate, light-recoiling and a pure joy to shoot. Don't know much about the Venture but word I've read and heard is that they can be pretty accurate, especially if you reload for them. If not, you might pick up 4-5 boxes of different loads and see if your rifle likes one of them. Once you find a load, use the rest for practice and save the brass! Someone on here will probably buy it off of you!
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 01:50 AM
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25 calibers work best when they have wby on the headstamp
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 10:00 PM
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22" on the 7MM 08, 24" 0n the 25.06 I'm debating between the 25.06 and 7mm 08 The round itself will do just about anything you want it to up to and including elk. It's flat shooting and hits above its' weight. What barrel length TC?
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I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 10:06 PM
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1:09 What twist rate are most factory barrels ?
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 10:30 PM
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Of all the calibers, the quarter bore most resembles someone with little man syndrome. Always trying to prove his worth, and continuing to come up short.
I blame the creator who stuck him with a 10 twist. How different his story would have been if given a proper 8 twist.
Go with the 7mm, for he has no such problems.
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Re: 25.06
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09/15/15 11:56 PM
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I had a Remington 700 Custom in /25-06, I bought it from Hunter Bradlee (some Dallas Old Timers may remember). It shoy very good with the Hornady 120gr Interlock HP over H4831.
I paid $700 for it, besides my Colt Python, it was the second dumbest gun sales I've ever made.
If I see a Browning 78 single shot in .25-06, it just might go home with me.
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 12:16 AM
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Wow, I wonder what this says about the 30. guys? Of all the calibers, the quarter bore most resembles someone with little man syndrome. Always trying to prove his worth, and continuing to come up short.
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 12:36 AM
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Wow, I wonder what this says about the 30. guys? Of all the calibers, the quarter bore most resembles someone with little man syndrome. Always trying to prove his worth, and continuing to come up short. No flies in the 30 cal. ointment. A bullet for every task, and twist rates galore.
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 01:25 AM
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Of all the calibers, the quarter bore most resembles someone with little man syndrome. Always trying to prove his worth, and continuing to come up short.
I blame the creator who stuck him with a 10 twist. How different his story would have been if given a proper 8 twist.
Go with the 7mm, for he has no such problems. How would it have been different? I've had numerous 25 cal rifles, 25/06s, 257Rs, 25WSSMs, which were/are tack drivers with 120 gr bullets despite being "saddled" with ten inch twists.
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 01:51 AM
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Of all the calibers, the quarter bore most resembles someone with little man syndrome. Always trying to prove his worth, and continuing to come up short.
I blame the creator who stuck him with a 10 twist. How different his story would have been if given a proper 8 twist.
Go with the 7mm, for he has no such problems. In my experience, the only time the .25-06 could be accused of being stricken with little man syndrome is when the hunter tries to use it on a big, truculent animal..... like an elk. Likewise, a guy owning a 7mmRM would find himself similarly under gunned if he attempted to collect a brown bear with his 7mm. No doubt, elk have been killed with the .25-06 just as the 7 Mag has scored on the odd brownie ( Bob Hagel took one with his Mashburn). I currently load for two rifles chambered in .25-06, both with ten inch twists, and both easily stabilize 117-120 gr bullets. With these guns I've cleanly taken a mule deer, a Nevada desert bighorn, a NM pronghorn, and several Texas whitetails and pigs. If there is a better all-round cartridge for the hunting that most of us do on our deer leases, I haven't seen it. Now, if a guy wants to load heavy VLD bullets for long range shooting, a faster twist would be preferred, but since the OP is looking at a T-C rifle, I'm guessing that his intended use is for general hunting, not LR shooting. In this case the 10" twist is plenty good for its intended purpose. Just don't call it an elk rifle. Of course, YMMV.
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 09:27 PM
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No Elk, mainly Whitetail. 250 yds would be a long shot. Should I stick with 115/120 gr One day I would like to get a Pronghorn..... at least it's on the bucket list Now, if a guy wants to load heavy VLD bullets for long range shooting, a faster twist would be preferred, but since the OP is looking at a T-C rifle, I'm guessing that his intended use is for general hunting, not LR shooting. In this case the 10" twist is plenty good for its intended purpose. Just don't call it an elk rifle.
Of course, YMMV.
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 09:52 PM
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Considering all the cons, why would one consider the 25-06 when the same rifle can be had in 7mm-08 and 280..........nostalgia?
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 10:02 PM
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Personally, I usually choose the 115-117-120 gr bullets in the .25-06. It's no real trick to get 3000-3100 fps from these bullets, and IME they are quite accurate. I was lucky this year to draw a mule deer tag in a prime unit in SE Colorado, and I plan to hunt with my .25-06 and the 120 gr Nosler Partition. This gun is a trued Rem 700 with a Douglas sporter wt barrel put together by Steve Lamphear. I was thinking about using my .300WM or 7mmRM, but the .25-06 kept whispering in my ear.
I shot a pronghorn several years back with the 100 gr Nosler BT, and it worked very well. I've recently become a fan of the Barnes TTSX, mainly the 140 version out of the 7mmRM, and the 100 gr TTSX out of the .25-06 might be darn-near perfect for Texas deer and hogs, as well as western mulies and prairie goats. I have several boxes of the 100 gr TTSX bullets but just haven't gotten around to working up a load just yet. I'm sure some other responder has used this pill on game.....and with good results I'm betting.
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Re: 25.06
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Considering all the cons, why would one consider the 25-06 when the same rifle can be had in 7mm-08 and 280..........nostalgia?
All the cons??? If you are keeping your hunting shots under 500 yards (which most people NEED to - due to lack of considerable practice), there are no cons for your average hunter. I like to keep an open mind about others' caliber preferences. I will tell the truth.. years ago I didn't "like" the 25 calibers because of all of the internet hate on them. I then ran across a rifle in 25-06 that was too cheap to pass up. I quickly realized that I was wrong to dislike the caliber because of what I read. To date, I believe I have downed more animals with that 25-06 than any other rifle/caliber that I own. It is IMPRESSIVE!!!
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Re: 25.06
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09/16/15 10:32 PM
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Wait, what are all these drawbacks to the .25-06? And the .280 has its own drawbacks in that it isn't offered by most manufacturers and ammo and cases can be hard to find.
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Re: 25.06
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Considering all the cons, why would one consider the 25-06 when the same rifle can be had in 7mm-08 and 280..........nostalgia?
You know you've just drawn a line in the sand with your sabre, don't you Lapua?
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple.....and wrong." H. L. Mencken
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Wait, what are all these drawbacks to the .25-06? And the .280 has its own drawbacks in that it isn't offered by most manufacturers and ammo and cases can be hard to find. That is what I want to know too...for his intended purpose, it is a stellar cartridge. Light recoil, good ammo selection, flat shooting to 400 yards....hummm....sounds like a damn good cartridge. Ed
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Re: 25.06
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09/17/15 01:28 AM
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I'd like to know why anyone would contend that a cartridge or caliber that is not optimal for shooting steel at 1000 yards should not be considered a viable choice for typical three to four hundred yard hunting.
The long range dogma is really getting stale.
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Re: 25.06
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09/17/15 02:12 AM
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A quick point.
I never said anything regarding quarter bores and long range. They don't even belong in the same sentence.
I am simply talking about the lack of versatility.
More to come after the debate is over.
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Re: 25.06
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Be specific: what lack of versatility? The .25-06 is one of the best choices that can be made for an all-around (typical) hunting caliber in this part of the world.
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