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#5930115 - 09/15/15 04:45 PM Age and score Coke co bucks
Kactuskiller Offline
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Registered: 03/04/14
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Loc: Midlothian, Tx Hunt in:Coke C...
Here is two that have shed. Give me an age and score guess on both.



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#5930132 - 09/15/15 04:57 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Natty Love

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Top buck 4yr old

Bottom buck 5yr old

Both mid 130s
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#5930134 - 09/15/15 04:59 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Natty Love

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Was thinking the bottom deer would have a edge over the top one on score but think the top ones MBs and extra couple inches of extra tines will keep him right there with the other.
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#5930135 - 09/15/15 04:59 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Hard to tell from just those pics. I'll say the first deer (10pt) is 3 and scores and scores 132. The nine point is 4 and is 136.

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#5930156 - 09/15/15 05:10 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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I seriously doubt either of those bucks will break 130.... seen a lot of Coke county bucks, and a 130 8/9pt would be a whopper. Our 10's sometime get into the 130's. Mid-teens to low 120's is my guess.

Both mature deer, but not real old. 4-5 yo

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#5930223 - 09/15/15 05:46 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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4-5 year old, low to mid 120s
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#5930244 - 09/15/15 06:02 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Both are 4 year olds, biggest will be in the mid 120's
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#5930269 - 09/15/15 06:19 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Sorry for the ambitious gross scores, OP. Never hunted Coke Co. I guess those deer are smaller than I thought. I've only hunted deer up there in Jack Co. Both places had mature bucks over 200lbs on the hoof. Both were low-fenced and well managed.

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#5930470 - 09/15/15 07:47 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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no older than 4.5 and 115 on top buck maybe 120 on the 2nd.
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#5930616 - 09/15/15 09:04 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Registered: 11/05/12
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Loc: Jackson County
1st 3/5 and 112
2nd 4.5 and 120

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#5930745 - 09/15/15 10:12 PM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
Kactuskiller Offline
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Loc: Midlothian, Tx Hunt in:Coke C...
Ok here is where we think they are.
10- I have posted this deer on TBH and have shown to several other very experienced on the hoof agers and we still can't decide, he is either 3.5 or a small bodied 6.5+!
He has characteristics of both. I think he is about 122-124"

9- I was unsure earlier in season between 4.5-5.5, no he is starting to bulk up a little since he shed. I'm really starting to lean on 5.5. I've had anywhere from 127-133 but I really don't think he will crack 130. Leaning heavy on 128.

Two different body types on these deer.
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#5931160 - 09/16/15 08:54 AM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Registered: 01/09/12
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Bottom 4.5, top 3.5 but with some other pics may could convince me he is older than that just from his nose appearing shorter. I hope you get some more pics of him and hopefully in daylight.

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#5931248 - 09/16/15 09:38 AM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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I wouldn't get hung up too much on age and score, cull or not. In our neck of the woods there in Coke county, those are pretty decent, average bucks. Shoot or not shoot as you desire. I'm sure there are a few 140-150" deer out there somewhere, but not very many - and in that country, I severely doubt if feed/culling is going to have much effect because the area is so large and the deer are so plentiful.

For example, on our lease - which is like 10 guys on 5500+ acres - I used to think that we should be shooting some culls, and was worried about taking too many of the larger deer. That changed after I talked to a few VERY knowledgable deer breeders/people. They all said the same thing - in order for culling to make a difference, with our deer population, we would have to take like a HUNDRED deer off the place for several years in a row - before we would BEGIN to see a change. Furthermore, we would have to be feeding something like 10,000 lbs of protein a month for feed to make a difference. And taking a 3-4yo deer isn't going to make ANY difference in the overall quality of the herd good or bad.

Sooo, now I just enjoy going and seeing whatever shows up. Feeding because I LIKE to. And shoot a deer that I like (within lease rules, of course) and not worry about anything else.

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#5931374 - 09/16/15 10:50 AM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
Kactuskiller Offline
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It's not the culling or even genetics I get tied up in as it pertains to the overall herd. I look at an individual buck. If he is a buck that has certain traits like tine length, width, mass, 10 pnt plus or extra points. Then I try to decide if he will have true potential to be a real trophy(say 135+)the following year if I let him walk. I do this with any buck 4.5 and under. My first thought is always, Will he be drastically better next year??

I will always let a deer walk if his age is questionable and he has true trophy potential for the area. I made an exception to this last year and have questioned myself all season wondering what he would have done with the wet year we had and another year of supplemental feed. He was a borderline 4.5-5.5 but still a mainframe 9pnt. This is a shooter by our rules but he had a great frame and character.
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#5931399 - 09/16/15 10:58 AM Re: Age and score Coke co bucks [Re: Kactuskiller]
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Loc: Ellis County, TX
Probably would have been much better with the conditions this year but a good deer none the less. You never know what each year will bring, he made you happy and you put an arrow in him. I say good job.

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