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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: LuckyHunter]
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09/15/15 02:32 AM
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I'd rather just give up hunting and take up fishing exclusively if I had to hunt in pens. Put up the fence and go pretend to hunt....the hell with that. What size fresh water compound do you fish? Do you use artificial bait, live bait, boat, fish only from shore, electronic fish locator, cane pole, use a net, 3 # line or 17# test, barbless hook? Just curious I enjoy fishing too. I use all methods while fishing in stocked tanks. I raise them up, catch'em, kill'em, and mount'em. I glorify my skills and abilities by displaying them in my trophy room. Sound stupid? Sound familiar? Are you that person? Wake up!
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: Navasot]
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09/15/15 02:33 AM
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right... like a dam hen house fighting over whos egg taste the best Screw the eggs, eat the hens. But in case we don't, for the record, mine taste the best.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: Rob Lay]
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09/15/15 02:35 AM
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I shot a doe on a 4k acre hf ranch....my heart was beating outta my chest
I shot a buck on a 300 acre hf ranch.....my heart was beating outta my chest
I shot a buck on a 70k acre low fence ranch.....heart was beating outta my chest
Find the common denominator
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: MarkE]
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09/15/15 02:37 AM
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I'd rather just give up hunting and take up fishing exclusively if I had to hunt in pens. Put up the fence and go pretend to hunt....the hell with that. What size fresh water compound do you fish? Do you use artificial bait, live bait, boat, fish only from shore, electronic fish locator, cane pole, use a net, 3 # line or 17# test, barbless hook? Just curious I enjoy fishing too. I use all methods while fishing in stocked tanks. I raise them up, catch'em, kill'em, and mount'em. I glorify my skills and abilities by displaying them in my trophy room. Sound stupid? Sound familiar? Are you that person? Wake up! Lure fisherman hate live bait fisherman Fly fisherman hate conventional fisherman What's really the difference?
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 02:45 AM
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I shot a doe on a 4k acre hf ranch....my heart was beating outta my chest
I shot a buck on a 300 acre hf ranch.....my heart was beating outta my chest
I shot a buck on a 70k acre low fence ranch.....heart was beating outta my chest
Find the common denominator I think you need to check with your Cardiologist, so he put your heart back in your chest.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: LuckyHunter]
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09/15/15 02:57 AM
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I'd rather just give up hunting and take up fishing exclusively if I had to hunt in pens. Put up the fence and go pretend to hunt....the hell with that. What size fresh water compound do you fish? Do you use artificial bait, live bait, boat, fish only from shore, electronic fish locator, cane pole, use a net, 3 # line or 17# test, barbless hook? Just curious I enjoy fishing too. That's Funny I just ignore it now, it's like Lonzo is trying to carry on Oscar's agenda... If you ignore it they move on to .223 or dressing like Elmer Fudd... Comical actually
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: MarkE]
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09/15/15 04:38 AM
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I'd rather just give up hunting and take up fishing exclusively if I had to hunt in pens. Put up the fence and go pretend to hunt....the hell with that. What size fresh water compound do you fish? Do you use artificial bait, live bait, boat, fish only from shore, electronic fish locator, cane pole, use a net, 3 # line or 17# test, barbless hook? Just curious I enjoy fishing too. I use all methods while fishing in stocked tanks. I raise them up, catch'em, kill'em, and mount'em. I glorify my skills and abilities by displaying them in my trophy room. Sound stupid? Sound familiar? Are you that person? Wake up! Since you are such a skilled fisherman, when does a stocked tank become a stocked lake? Is there a certain size? I too love to catch and eat fish. I do have a salmon I caught in a river in Alaska. Then again they were swimming up stream to lay their eggs. I guess that would not really be a trophy! O'well I thought it was. The brown bears sure liked them.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: Rob Lay]
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09/15/15 12:18 PM
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If you want to put a high fence on your land, I don't see anything wrong with it. You work hard your whole life to buy a nice piece of land that is good to hunt, it's your right to manage it however you see fit. High fences may keep game animals in, but they keep predators out as well. It's up to you to manage that property to make hunting on it better. If you do a great job managing your property, and people are willing to pay to hunt it, more power to you both. I believe in fair chase hunting, but if I were a land holder you better believe I'd do all I could to make it attractive to game and control predators. If I had the money to fence it in, I would do that too.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 12:26 PM
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 12:30 PM
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To even have a poll that suggests we should be able to vote on it is not freedom, it's socialism. Bad form Rob. I think our definition of socialism and freedom are different. You don't think anyone should have the right or freedom to have different opinions as you or discus them on THF. Isn't that socialism trying to get everyone to fit a specific mold? To me the freedom and rights of all of us to have different ways we prefer to hunt and openly discus them on THF is the greatest gift of all and 100% American. I think your brand is better suited for North Korea or Iran, not Texas especially!!! Yes trying to fit a specific mold is socialism, and that's exactly what you are trying to do by pushing your elitist view on hunting. Your stupid poll will do nothing to support your agenda or the proponents of HighFence huntings agenda. All it will do is bring out hate, arguing, and dislike among hunters. You know nothing about me or my brand, if you did you would know that comparing me to a North Korean or Muslim in my presence would lose your front teeth or break your nose.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: Regular Guy]
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09/15/15 12:36 PM
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If you want to put a high fence on your land, I don't see anything wrong with it. I agree, although the only thing that gives me pause is natural movement patterns, but then in end I think land owner rights wins out over impact to neighbors wildlife. High fence no different than if they do oil well development or decide to build a neighborhood, tough luck. I hunted property in Oklahoma a neighbor put up high fence on their side that completely blocked out a major drainage the deer used. There were 10+ land owners and thousands of acres that had deer hunting diminished significantly because actions of one. That was their right though.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 12:39 PM
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Yes trying to fit a specific mold is socialism, and that's exactly what you are trying to do by pushing your elitist view on hunting. Your stupid poll will do nothing to support your agenda or the proponents of HighFence huntings agenda. All it will do is bring out hate, arguing, and dislike among hunters. You know nothing about me or my brand, if you did you would know that comparing me to a North Korean or Muslim in my presence would lose your front teeth or break your nose. wow, doesn't support your argument foundation when you resort to name calling, bullying, and physical threats. Most people in the right would be more effective with reasoning and intelligence, but maybe you aren't capable? I'm your huckleberry.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 12:45 PM
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I didn't see bullying or threatening.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 12:58 PM
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I didn't see bullying or threatening. would lose your front teeth or break your nose. that's OK, plenty of internet tough guys, I actually know how to deal with them in real life.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:01 PM
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Not trying to be tough or threatening, and I'd welcome meeting you in person to discuss this further.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:03 PM
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Here comes the lock......
AGAIN!
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:05 PM
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I didn't see bullying or threatening. would lose your front teeth or break your nose. that's OK, plenty of internet tough guys, I actually know how to deal with them in real life. the passive aggressive UIBA, watch out fellas long live the THF
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:08 PM
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Here comes the lock......
AGAIN!
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:27 PM
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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Not trying to be tough or threatening, and I'd welcome meeting you in person to discuss this further. let's make a little attempt to get this back on track, I know you don't like the thread out here, so just ignore it. that's American right? freedom to enjoy what you want and let others enjoy what they want?
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:34 PM
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Before this gets locked, the Poll shows about 66% will hunt high fence in some form, 26% adopt a live and let live attitude, only 8% believe that HF should be banned.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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Before this gets locked, the Poll shows about 66% will hunt high fence in some form, 26% adopt a live and let live attitude, only 8% believe that HF should be banned. I'm surprised there is even 8%. I would have expected lower. I think this is informational for most of us and hopefully the THF/Mod team. Only 41% are hunt HF regardless and there are 35% that are LF only. Just shows THF is a diverse community how we like to hunt legally. We would show similar diversity if polling archery/rifles, guide/no guide, baiting/no baiting, stand/spot stalk, etc. America is a great place we can practice and discuss our own differences while allowing others their differences.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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09/15/15 01:52 PM
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When members of "our own" speak out against how another of "our own" does what they do I don't see how its not understandable when met with contempt.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
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If you want to put a high fence on your land, I don't see anything wrong with it. I agree, although the only thing that gives me pause is natural movement patterns, but then in end I think land owner rights wins out over impact to neighbors wildlife. High fence no different than if they do oil well development or decide to build a neighborhood, tough luck. I hunted property in Oklahoma a neighbor put up high fence on their side that completely blocked out a major drainage the deer used. There were 10+ land owners and thousands of acres that had deer hunting diminished significantly because actions of one. That was their right though. Not the first time I stuck my foot in my mouth, and it won't be the last. If those ten landowners could put their heads together and make their property significantly more attractive to the deer, it might come back the other way. I know a guy whose family's property is a part of a co-op where several came together and fenced their land in, and they manage it for deer. I do feel like barriers that impede natural movement patterns should be illegal, but where do you draw the line? I have seen it enough to know that the anti's will play the law to their favor. Just like statistics, it can be misinterpreted to somebody's agenda. And to be completely honest, even building a subdivision on the outskirts of town could likely be prohibited by legislation like that. Personally, I believe in fair chase hunting. But I don't believe in restricting landowners from managing their land however they see fit. I feel that you coukd manage your land better and make it more productive and attractive if wildlife can move freely on and off your property as well. Regarding ethics, fair chase, canned hunts, and etc. I feel like it is a very touchy subject and it isn't black and white. Every situation is different, and most legislation will likely be unfair to somebody. But it is what it is. Personally, it's not about the kill, but the quality time spent in the woods. I've had opportunities to get out and hunt deer that I passed on. I don't want to sit in a blind in front of a feeder and wait for a deer-especially not for my first kill. I would rather get after the squirrels in the "real" woods. But again, if I were a landholder I'd manage it to the best of my ability. Meat in the freezer is half the reason I hunt. I would probably also still want to spend time in pursuit elsewhere as well. I can see why it is so touchy subject.
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Re: The Ultimate HF vs. LF Poll
[Re: redchevy]
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When members of "our own" speak out against how another of "our own" does what they do I don't see how its not understandable when met with contempt. Exactly that's the part I don't understand. Almost childish really, if you don't like a HF...here comes the simple part...Don't hunt it. But getting down right angry about someone else hunting it?
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