Let's talk about gun control and the non gun owners views. It will make as much sense as NP.

When you start saying things like "when you shoot your animal behind a high fence you are shooting it in a pen" you ARE attacking many hunters experience that you know nothing about because you weren't there and you don't know anything regarding their hunt that took place. Just like your crying about now that you say therancher did to you.

Have you noticed that the difference in perspective is yours and then everyone else?

You complain that most on here gang up and attack you. It's not rocket science to figure out why.

Your extreme generalizations that you use to support your perspective bring this upon yourself.

You just don't want to own it.

I want a free Eland..


Hey therancher, when we argue, you never offered me a free eland

You tell yourself I am the only one who feels as I do. You are wrong. Many do, on here and otherwise. It's a subject of major discussion. Most (especially outside Texas) feel as I do.

Who posts HF threads? Not me. It's almost always the HF guys (there are 3 going on right now - all posted by HF proponents). But they don't want discussion on the subject. They simply want validation for what they are doing. To feel good about it. To feel like it's all the same. If they don't get it, they label those who don't give it to them as "attacking" them.

One of the major challenges of sport hunting is finding the game. Wild game or not (and many HF operations are not wild game), knowing the game: 1)is there and 2)is not going anywhere is the purpose of the HF. Thus, a major part of the challenge of hunting is removed. That is not a generalization-that is a fact. It's why the HFs exist.

The elk hunter who posted seems like a great guy. But wild elk are challenging to locate. You don't get one on this day, who knows where they will be tomorrow? But he knew. Inside the fence. That's a game changer, pure and simple. But I'm certain he doesn't want to hear that. And if I posted that on his thread many would not be happy about it.

Folks don't want to hear that. They want validation, not discussion. But that is not my fault. And it doesn't make me an attacker. It just makes me a guy with a point of view some don't like.

One of the major challenges of sport hunting is finding the game.

Here is my issue with that. Hunting is not a sport to me. When you play football, when you win, you don't cape the opposing teams QB and have a shoulder mount done and bbq his tenderloin when you get home.

Hunting is different. There used to be, not sure if it still is or not, a show called the cambel outdoor challenge where they had teams of hunters and camera men who would travel around and hunt in competitions to see who could shoot the biggest buck, with the best film etc. and make a competition out of it. Made my blood boil... still does.

You tell yourself I am the only one who feels as I do. You are wrong. Many do, on here and otherwise. It's a subject of major discussion. Most (especially outside Texas) feel as I do.

Who posts HF threads? Not me. It's almost always the HF guys (there are 3 going on right now - all posted by HF proponents). But they don't want discussion on the subject. They simply want validation for what they are doing. To feel good about it. To feel like it's all the same. If they don't get it, they label those who don't give it to them as "attacking" them.

One of the major challenges of sport hunting is finding the game. Wild game or not (and many HF operations are not wild game), knowing the game: 1)is there and 2)is not going anywhere is the purpose of the HF. Thus, a major part of the challenge of hunting is removed. That is not a generalization-that is a fact. It's why the HFs exist.

The elk hunter who posted seems like a great guy. But wild elk are challenging to locate. You don't get one on this day, who knows where they will be tomorrow? But he knew. Inside the fence. That's a game changer, pure and simple. But I'm certain he doesn't want to hear that. And if I posted that on his thread many would not be happy about it.

Folks don't want to hear that. They want validation, not discussion. But that is not my fault. And it doesn't make me an attacker. It just makes me a guy with a point of view some don't like.

Your right, he doesn't want to here that BS and shouldn't have to on a hunting forum. FACT: his hunt was just as challenging as your sheep hunt and had the same advantages and disadvantages. Your sheep was "located" for you as well, but you want us to put your accomplishment on a higher plane than his.

And he never asked for your validation or anyone elses and shouldn't have to on a hunting forum.

NP:

Validation Never met a HF hunter looking for validation.....Then again I want hunt with anyone looking for validation. I never saw the elk hunter say "Look at my HF elk and tell me what you think, I need public validation" He just posted a picture of "His" elk. Then comes the ahole attacks... "Did he come to the feed bucket", "sure is fat", "did you whistle him up", "honk the horn". He was not looking for approval... What he got was attacked by fellow hunters who know nothing about this man and were not there. The very same anti-Hf police validators. Just maybe he read one on your threads and thought "I have a brain" maybe I'll give it a try!

When I post a picture on the THF I could give a rats butt about validation. It's always the anti-Hf who tear down by rude comments. To devalue the hunter, the ranch and the animal. I'm just sharing a picture. I thought that's what the THF was about. Not post for judgement.

This crap you are shoveling about can't escape.... While you sit on your throne of judgement when a mountain lion, black bear, whitetail deer, chased by a pack of dogs qualifies for B&C.

A corn feed, crop planted eating, every morning visiting monster buck makes B&C.

A trail cam documented 7:30 am on time arriving barrel feeding bear makes the "Validation Book"

Hiring a guide to pre-scot an elk, sheep, mule deer the evening before opening morning so the hunter can get the drop...the B&C record book is full of them.

The "Governor Tag" great mighty hunter who's shooting a ram which appeared on "The Foundation of North America Wild Sheep" cover get's your validation.

When you step off the plane above the Arctic circle the muskox is dead he just does not know it yet... Once again B&C bound.

Hunting is what you make of it. Period. Success is based only on time and money. You have enough time and enough money you can guarantee success.

You can take your judgement, your moral compass, your must have validation trolling opinions and show some class. I guarantee "No one makes one single post on THF looking for NP approval" . Your opinions would be better served by standing on the street corner with a sign. "I hate HF, But I kill animals" I'm sure you will meet a friend or two. But take an umbrella because some eggs will come your way.

Here's the group that needs your opinions as they are wasted on THF... "Signs carried by Cecil the lion supporters"
Oops... "Stop Trophy Hunting" you need to set them straight. Lord knows you think you are qualified.




Look forward to you're reply... Let it rip... and don't worry I've been insulted by better.

"It's just a difference in perspective. A HF a pen. 100 acres or 1000 acres. I mean, it's there to enclose animals so those that seek them can be assured they won't go anywhere. Right? It's a pen. That's why it's there-to pen animals."

Absolutely not. Mine and most high fences are there to keep animals out as much as to keep them in. And to allow our deer and other animals reach maturity.

In no way are my high fences there to guarantee "those that seek them can know they won't go anywhere". In NO WAY are my high fences guaranteeing any animal is easier to kill.

No wonder you have a warped view of HF's. You don't understand anything about them.

I’m really confused and I guess I don’t understand anything about high fences either. I understand the point about having bad genes entering your property when you are farming an strictly managed heard (a farmer needs full control over the population), but from my experience, HF folks in general are a hell of a lot more worried about animals leaving. I used to work on a HF ranch in high school. Part of my job was to check fences twice weekly. Not one time, ever, did the landowner mention that he was worried about something entering the property (other than yotes), however, he was intensely worried about animals getting out. IF you have exotics, axis for instance, are you really more worried about axis leaving or axis coming in? I just looked through a thread that had a picture of an axis that had jumped into his pen; he shot it with a camera, not a gun. He didn’t seem to worried about it jumping in…..

Another thing I don’t understand is that quote about the animals not “going anywhere.” They may be hard to hunt, however, they aren’t going anywhere as in “outside the fence.” I mean, you don’t go hunting an animal in captivity and have to wonder whether or not he might be on the neighbors place; thus the guarantee of that animal being on the property and thus the high fence that keeps him on the property.

The best description I have heard ...

The "Elitists Chest Thumpers"


I read that text this morning and literally laughed out loud