Yep CR, seen lesser threads get the "lock"

Same here.
And contrary to some anti-HF beliefs, we didn't do it to make hunting easier. Matter of fact the exact opposite happened, it is harder.

this is a genuine question. how has it made it more difficult?

this is a genuine question. how has it made it more difficult?

this is a genuine question. how has it made it more difficult?

I do think its ridiculous when these "hunters" get driven to a blind, sit for an hour, shoot a record buck, hang it on the wall and brag how they are a "Great Hunter".

Smh. Can someone post pics of NP's ram lol

Depends on the size of each place.

For us, the deer got smart. I can walk off on the LF place and be 75-100 yards from a feeder while working on a blind and the deer don't care. That would never happen on the HF.
I think hunting pressure has made it tougher. We keep a handful of axis and black buck around so hunting happens in the off season, so the deer have been educated to hunting. (Bobo mentioned this too)
Maybe feed habits. The HFers have protein, blocks, minerals, water and foot plots, they are not driven by their stomachs. A feeder going off is no guarantee, but on the LF when a feeder goes off we will have a crowd waiting on it.
If I have a buck on one of our LF cameras, we just show up the first day of archery and shoot him. On the HF it has never been quite that easy. We have some deer that are so wily that they even dodge trail cameras. We only know that they exist because of the few times a year that they slip up and pose for a game cam. We have an 8 year old that I have been hunting since he was 5, no human has ever seen him.
Like Tye said, maybe the higher percentage of mature deer has something to do with it.
To me if a HF place is 500 acres and has 70 deer, it would be more difficult to hunt than walking out onto a LF that is 500 acres and also has 70 deer.

My ram doesn't have anything to do with anything. Please don't get off topic again, I'm reading and learning.

So far, I've learned that, simply by putting up the HF:

1)It makes the deer smarter; and
2)It makes them suddenly pay attention to the wind/wary of human smell (because free-range deer don't care about the wind/human smell).

Dang, I knew they put them up for some reason. But I had no idea they were magic. Amazing stuff one can learn on here.

If one says all HF hunts are easier than all LF hunts, that can certainly be fairly characterized an over-generalization.

If one says the vast majority of HF hunts are easier than the vast majority of LF hunts, that is not an over-generalization. That is simply a fact that only folks in total denial would dispute.

That's why using the examples of "easy" LF hunts to compare them to examples of "hard" HF hunts is not persuasive and is, in fact, disingenuous. Why? Because they are not the norm since they are extreme examples on the far end of the spectrum for each. On your HF ram hunt, you were hunting one particular animal. Not quite a fair basis for comparison to LF hunting in general - and certainly not the norm for most HF hunting.

And one thing that the HF always does is this: it keeps the animals within the confines of the fence. They are in those confines today. And they will remain there tomorrow, and the next day, and all season long. That certainty is never there without the HF. That's the game changer. And that is not a generalization. It's a fact.

The fence is there for a reason.

I'll PM you a photo or two. Not a problem.

My ram doesn't have anything to do with anything. Please don't get off topic again, I'm reading and learning.

So far, I've learned that, simply by putting up the HF:

1)It makes the deer smarter; and
2)It makes them suddenly pay attention to the wind/wary of human smell (because free-range deer don't care about the wind/human smell).

Dang, I knew they put them up for some reason. But I had no idea they were magic. Amazing stuff one can learn on here.

I have only read some of these posts, but I don't like HF mainly for selfish reasons. They limit the possible number of quality deer available to me to hunt in some cases. But, it is hard to tell a man who owns the property he cannot do what is necessary to realize maximum profit with his land.