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#5899415 - 08/27/15 04:54 PM Dealing with people on lease
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Registered: 01/10/06
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We have a great lease but seems there is always 1 guy on every lease I have ever been on that seems a little more "difficult" than everyone one else to deal with. Here is the situation.

Last year this guy "Joe" shot a 3.5 yr old 8 point that had 9" brow tines. Several people had pics of him, I even drew on him just to see if I could, but everyone agreed he was off limits. Joe shot him anyway.
Then this year Joe decides to move locations and take a spot that was vacant from a guy who left our lease. But he doesnt just go to that spot or even spread out to make it better for all, he moves 450 yards closer to my stand. With the number of acres and number of hunters it wasnt necessary.

I told the guy who runs the lease about it and Joe was told to move to the the spot that was vacant but of course he is pissed. Me and Joe already had it out lsat year about the buck he shot.
I know some people will say shoot whatever makes you happy but this isnt the kind of lease we have and it has always been clearly communicated what we want to shoot.

How do you deal with guys like this on your lease?
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#5899435 - 08/27/15 05:04 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: hookemhorns]
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Easiest thing, lease rules should all be in writing and all agreed to via signature on the document, with stiff penalties up to and including 'see ya later but not around here'. You have a lease manager, if rules are broken just hand it over to him to handle, like you did with the new stand location.
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#5899439 - 08/27/15 05:06 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: hookemhorns]
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Registered: 08/13/15
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Put expectations in the lease agreement and make sure you have someone in charge that is willing to enforce them.

That buck you described would get you a minimum $1,000 fine or booted from our lease. And it's written as such into the agreement.

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#5899470 - 08/27/15 05:30 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: soonersorlaters]
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All of above - well written, SIGNED set of rules by each member - knowingly breaking the rule? You are gone. Honest mistake? That happens.

PS: I predict this to be a very long thread


Edited by tlk (08/27/15 05:31 PM)
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#5899541 - 08/27/15 06:08 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: hookemhorns]
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Who ever is in charge of the lease should set the ground rules. Everyone needs to agree and sign off on them.
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#5899548 - 08/27/15 06:12 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Who ever is in charge of the lease should set the ground rules. Everyone needs to agree and sign off on them.



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This. We had a similar situation. He got the boot.
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#5899550 - 08/27/15 06:12 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: hookemhorns]
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Hit him in the Head with a Steak...
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#5899557 - 08/27/15 06:14 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: SniperRAB]
stxranchman Offline
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Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Hit him in the Head with a Steak...

whip
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#5899563 - 08/27/15 06:16 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Hit him in the Head with a Steak...

whip


It worked rofl

He's never popped off again roflmao
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#5899568 - 08/27/15 06:17 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Who ever is in charge of the lease should set the ground rules. Everyone needs to agree and sign off on them.


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#5899571 - 08/27/15 06:17 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: SniperRAB]
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Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Hit him in the Head with a Steak...

whip


It worked rofl

He's never popped off again roflmao


Or ram his deer blind with a Jeep peep
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#5899576 - 08/27/15 06:19 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: hookemhorns]
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rofl
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#5899591 - 08/27/15 06:24 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: hookemhorns]
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grin
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#5899658 - 08/27/15 06:46 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Hit him in the Head with a Steak...

whip


It worked rofl

He's never popped off again roflmao


Or ram his deer blind with a Jeep peep
I know what I would do. Sometimes a person has to do things that some may think are over the line. Me, I am old school. I don't tell or ask others what they think should be done. I just do it and keep my mouth shut.I have had trouble with hunters on my land and and on neighbors bordering me. When I did what needed to be done I no longer had any problem. Asking others what needs to be done with a problem usually results in the problem still there. Everyone you ask has a different opinion on what to do. You know what needs to be done. Do it.
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#5899752 - 08/27/15 07:30 PM Re: Dealing with people on lease [Re: don k]
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I have learned that if someone starts out on a lease as a problem then it will not get better - it will only go downhill as you move forward - cut your losses
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