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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 02:14 PM
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Its crazy how cattle vary from place to place. The first property I leased had cattle and we didn't even have feed pens, cattle paid the feeders no mind and didn't mess with hand fed corn either.
Second place we had to have feed pens and they would hang around hand fed corn all day.
Our place now we had cattle for a year that belonged to the guy that we bought it from. They didn't bother un-penned corn feeders at all, but would knock down and empty a protein feeder in one day.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 02:32 PM
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Its crazy how cattle vary from place to place. The first property I leased had cattle and we didn't even have feed pens, cattle paid the feeders no mind and didn't mess with hand fed corn either.
Second place we had to have feed pens and they would hang around hand fed corn all day.
Our place now we had cattle for a year that belonged to the guy that we bought it from. They didn't bother un-penned corn feeders at all, but would knock down and empty a protein feeder in one day. if your cattle were well behaved that means they're well fed and no need to go raid on deer feed another item the cattle on my place will go bezerk for is salt lick or mineral blocks. If I put some out for deer it's a 100% 'guaronti' that they will eventually destroy the panels to get in I quit putting mineral blocks inside pen
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 03:19 PM
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He's a handsome feller STX. Other than cattle, you have any issues with hogs getting over a 34" panel? We don't have stock to contend with. I'm curious about the same thing. Without cattle involved, whats a good minimum height to keep the hogs out? I have a bad habit of shooting the strands of wire I have never had any issues with hogs going over 34" panels, but I have heard of them. I talked to a guy who hunted on the Burr Ranch in the 90's and he said he had videos of hogs going over hog panels. He had a 96'x96' square pen with a corn feeder and protein. Hogs were giving him fits. There was some research done and IIRC they said 26" or 28" would keep most hogs out. I always corn with a road feeder away from the feeder and never shoot inside of my feed pens. We have a guy that has Game Cam Pics of a Full Grown Hog Climbing over like a Coon STX
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 05:11 PM
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If its in the feed pen its fair game right?
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 06:08 PM
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[quote=redchevy]
if your cattle were well behaved that means they're well fed and no need to go raid on deer feed
another item the cattle on my place will go bezerk for is salt lick or mineral blocks. If I put some out for deer it's a 100% 'guaronti' that they will eventually destroy the panels to get in I quit putting mineral blocks inside pen
Sounds like you may need to put some mineral blocks or a mineral feeder out for your cows.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 10:16 PM
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I have a number of rounded feeder pens from 34" hog panels. Use from 8-12 per pen. I overlap them and use wire rope clips (look like little u-bolts) to bolt together on the overlap. The pen will stand up by itself and is really solid. If you can get the t-posts in the ground good, anything more than one wired in the middle of each panel would be overkill. Would be a big waste of time and effort for me to use one in mid and both ends on each panel. In my rocky country I sometimes have to use a big hammer drill to set posts. Basically they keeps hogs from shoving the pen around but do not serve to hold up the panels since they are self supporting. My pens have been up for about 5 years in heavy hog country and we have everything from WT to aoudad, to axis in them regularly. Still as good as the day I put them up. Did not catch the cattle issue in the OP. I only have hogs and other wildlife. Cows would be a different matter and the only reason I can see to add more t-posts or height.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 10:23 PM
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Best advice is to bring someone else to drive all the Tposts
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/26/15 10:44 PM
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Its crazy how cattle vary from place to place. The first property I leased had cattle and we didn't even have feed pens, cattle paid the feeders no mind and didn't mess with hand fed corn either.
Second place we had to have feed pens and they would hang around hand fed corn all day.
Our place now we had cattle for a year that belonged to the guy that we bought it from. They didn't bother un-penned corn feeders at all, but would knock down and empty a protein feeder in one day. if your cattle were well behaved that means they're well fed and no need to go raid on deer feed another item the cattle on my place will go bezerk for is salt lick or mineral blocks. If I put some out for deer it's a 100% 'guaronti' that they will eventually destroy the panels to get in I quit putting mineral blocks inside pen Notice how fat this bull is? The cows were in the same kind of shape. No protein feeder or minerals or salt inside the pen. Minerals were at the water trough location in this pasture. Notice there is no corn on the ground, I have pics of him in the pen when there was corn on the ground at night and he never touched it. Same amount of corn was in those pics when he was not in the pen and then when he left. I suspect he was after Bufflegrass that was growing along the hog panels on the inside that he could reach over the top to eat and then continue over. We rotate these cattle every six weeks and every six weeks the cattle were in this pasture, he was in the pen from time to time.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 12:01 AM
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Ditto on the blocks. Made that mistake once...once. Never had an issue till that. Wrecked a good barb wire job.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 12:38 AM
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Take it slow and easy when driving the posts if it's in a rocky soil. Buddy of mine almost knocked himself out when we put up my feeder pen. Take turns driving T's and pay close attention.
Bleeding like a stuck pig in 100+ degree heat out in the middle of nowhere isn't fun.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
[Re: stxranchman]
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08/27/15 01:35 AM
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If you are going with a round pen and cattle panels I would use 5 or 5.5 foot T-Post. The strength of the round pen will help hold it up. I would only cut down every 3rd panel or a 8' section every so often to allow deer access. 12 panels will need 24 post per pen. I would overlap them one spacing. I used concrete tie wire to put my pen together quickly then came back and put 14ga. galvanized tie wire later. Like posted above leave one panel section for a gate. You can still put a T-post in the middle of it or just off to one side to allow easy access. I added panels last time out and left one 8 foot section for a gate but having a T post on each end and nothing in the middle left it too weak in the middle I thought. May be I need to try it and see if hogs get in.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 01:37 AM
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Having only sheep to contend with I opted for 34" hog panels which can simply be stepped over to fill feeders. Easy enough
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 02:36 AM
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I have always set one per panel, dead center, and used a heavy gauge wire to connect where they come together (12 panels = 12 posts). More posts means more crap in the way if you have to shoot at something on the backside of pen. I have never had anything knock it down as of yet. Spend a couple of extra dollars per panel and get the hog panels. I think they are approx. 32"-36" and Tractor Supply carries them. A lot easier to move around and don't have to cut them down.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 02:44 AM
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Best advice is to bring someone else to drive all the Tposts
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 02:46 AM
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Do you have access to a welder?
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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Best advice is to bring someone else to drive all the Tposts Good advice ... come to think of it, are you going to be at the lease for Labor Day weekend? It'll be your first chance at dove hunting this year, you know. I'll tell you what, why don't you bring your t-post driver and I'll bring a nice, cold case of Shiner Bock for you. I know its your favorite. Thanks, man, I'll see there!
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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Do you have access to a welder? I don't have access to a welder
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/27/15 11:27 PM
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I used to buy 4' unpainted T-Post to build feed pens with. Drive them down 14" or. into ground was enough to keep a round pen up. I have cut 6.5' or taller T-post in half also to use. I just drive then down as deep as needed. If it is below the top of the pen it will not hurt. I have some down 6" below top panel wire.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/28/15 04:53 PM
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Stx, you ever have any where the posts stick up past the panel? I don't really want to cut my posts and don't want to drive them 3 foot deep either. Thoughts? Already have some 6-footers
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/29/15 03:22 AM
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I don't have cattle. I cut a cattle panel in half and use silt stakes. The stakes are 4' I think and much cheaper. I've had my pens for 2 years and no hogs have gotten in yet. I just built another pen like this last week. It was very small. Only 64' in circumference. Cost $70. My other pens are 128' in circumference.
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/29/15 03:30 AM
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Stx, you ever have any where the posts stick up past the panel? I don't really want to cut my posts and don't want to drive them 3 foot deep either. Thoughts? Already have some 6-footers Yes, I have built a lot of pens with 6'-6.5' tpost and leave a lot sticking up over the top of panel. I have 4 taller posts in my 3 pens here now. I left those taller in case I get cattle in the future that are jumpers. I can add more panels for height or barbwire(with more Tposts).
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Re: T-posts for feeder pen
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08/31/15 02:41 AM
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Best advice is to bring someone else to drive all the Tposts Good advice ... come to think of it, are you going to be at the lease for Labor Day weekend? It'll be your first chance at dove hunting this year, you know. I'll tell you what, why don't you bring your t-post driver and I'll bring a nice, cold case of Shiner Bock for you. I know its your favorite. Thanks, man, I'll see there! Good luck to you cause I am not going down until the following weekend. Sure hate to miss out on a case of Shiner though. You need to save that bull whip for someone else.
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