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#5890354 - 08/22/15 08:03 AM Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use?
Talan2000 Offline
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Registered: 11/28/11
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hi guys.
Cabelas has the S&B primers available for a a very nice $19.99 price and I picked up a few boxes to replace my vanishing CCI inventory.

Has anyone had good luck with these (small primers)

I found it interesting to note that they are listed for "rifle, pistol, and revolver" cases. Setting aside "revolver" as obvious marketing verbiage I wonder if they indeed are suitable for both pistol and rifle? Seems they would need to be pretty hot to serve both pistol and rifle, no??

I am a bit skeptical of standard vs "magnum" pistol primer branding but I would expect rifle primers to be hotter.

Any thoughts ?

Todd
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#5890645 - 08/22/15 12:49 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
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Just curious, why would you save $.01 (a penny) per shot to buy the cheaper foreign made, lower quality primers for shooting. I know 2 types of shooters who get the foreign made primers- those who think it's not a bad idea to try them, and those who think it was the worst idea to to try them.
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#5890828 - 08/22/15 04:24 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
Talan2000 Offline
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Well I wouldn't knowingly buy crap. They were represented by the Cabelas gun clerk as being very well reviewed. I find S&B ammo to perform quite well and simply because ammunition or components are "foreign made" is no indication of inferiority quality. I have quite a few Czech firearms from CZ to Springfield Armory (oops. Croatian, but it starts with a C smile.

And I seem to recall gunpowder itself is a foreign Chinese invention so maybe those foreigners know a thing or two about explosives. wink

So saving 33% on 1000 primers can add up. So, if they work fine, why would anyone pay extra for their primers?

Anyone have firsthand experience ? If not I'll
Let you know when I load my rounds.
Todd




Edited by Talan2000 (08/22/15 10:27 PM)
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#5890861 - 08/22/15 04:55 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
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They are pretty well reviewed by people who have actual experience using them. Best SD/ES in the lot!

Link

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#5890864 - 08/22/15 04:57 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
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Todd, go to accurateshooter.com and use the search function. Join...they have a forum as well. You will find a lot more reloading knowledge on that site readily available as it is obviously a reloading dedicated site.

Good luck

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#5890865 - 08/22/15 05:00 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: jbd76266]
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...double post


Edited by jbd76266 (08/22/15 05:00 PM)

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#5890922 - 08/22/15 06:05 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
Talan2000 Offline
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Jbd,

"Double" thanks! Interesting article. I'm even more confident that these primers will be just fine - especially for my less than demanding use of plinking pistol rounds. I'll sign up over at accurateshooter.com - thanks for the tip. I always enjoy learning from more experienced folks.

Todd
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#5890970 - 08/22/15 06:45 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
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No problem. Guess I didn't realize you were shooting pistol as the site is geared toward rifle but still good info there

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#5891007 - 08/22/15 07:25 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
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Cabelas was running a sale on them several months ago for $17.99 per 1k. I picked up 5k and have shot about 1k out of an AR with good results. Loaded several with Hornady softpoints using S&B as well as CCI and there was no difference in accuracy. Shoot 'em!
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#5891018 - 08/22/15 07:34 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
Talan2000 Offline
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Registered: 11/28/11
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Thanks Ron. That's interesting to see that they do indeed function as small rifle as well as small pistol primers.

For grins I may chrono various 357 magnum loads to see if I can notice any meaningful differences in velocity es/sd using my remaining pistol powders and Winchester and CCI primers.

Jbd - I've dabbled in (semi!) precision rifle hand loads so the accurate shooter info is relevant.

Todd


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#5891064 - 08/22/15 08:05 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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So, again, why would you support a CZ company over American products for $.01.
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#5891094 - 08/22/15 08:30 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: jbd76266]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Originally Posted By: jbd76266
They are pretty well reviewed by people who have actual experience using them. Best SD/ES in the lot!

Link


The ES/SD is controlled a lot by the sweet spot of the rifle and the powder charge it likes. I can take any primer and put a powder charge that the rifle doesn't like and run the ES/SD numbers up. I can take any other primer and put it in combination with a powder charge that the rifle likes, and make that primer look good with a low ES/SD. Sure, the primer is an important roll in ammo. But that study is full of [censored]. The primer ignites the powder charge, and the powder charge controls the ES/SD more than the primer does. That link is worthless and does nothing to actually test the "reliability" of primers.

I have the same primer in multiple loads I test. Some loads are in the single digits of ES, and some loads are in the 40+ ES. So, is that the primers fault? Ridiculous link and worthless test, IMO.
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#5891097 - 08/22/15 08:31 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
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Same reason a guy would buy a Glock, CZ or Bersa I guess, decent quality for a cheaper price. Having said that I own CZ and S&W pistols, but mostly Remington rifles. I have plenty of primers to last me for years (CCI, Winchester mostly), I buy them up when they're on sale.


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#5891166 - 08/22/15 09:04 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
So, again, why would you support a CZ company over American products for $.01.


Aren't you always pushing Tikka?? Lol

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#5891172 - 08/22/15 09:06 PM Re: Sellier & Bellot primers - anyone use? [Re: Talan2000]
ChadTRG42 Offline
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Yeah, but they are are a very good product!! And I'm not posting a worthless link saying that this makes this product good.
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