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#5887350 - 08/20/15 10:14 AM Feeding Raw diet
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Anyone else feed raw food diet to your dogs? The 2 dogs I have now are both on it, and seem to be doing really well. Just wondering if anyone else is doing it and what all they feed.
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#5887877 - 08/20/15 03:35 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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I would be interested to see the cost difference break down between raw vs. bagged food. Thoughts?
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#5887889 - 08/20/15 03:48 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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10 LB bag of chicken quarters= 5.99 lasts 3 days for 2 dogs
1 jar Peanut butter =2.49 lasts a week or more
table scraps and extras = ?

About $60/ month or so. But keep in mind one dog is 170+ pounds, the other is 65 LB lab mix rescue. Both dogs are exceptionally healthy, and they poop once a day each and it extremely small, doesn't smell bad, and dries up and blows away in about 3-4 days.

Also consider the health benefit, that's the only reason I did it. They both have zero health issues, and are very active dogs. The big one had a weird musty smell for a little while, plain yogurt cured that in 3 days. They do get some occasional extra stuff, like deer entrails/trimmings, table scraps, if there is some meat on sale that is about to go bad, I will buy it for them to get a variety.

There are occasional additional costs as well like tuna fish, raw eggs. Very healthy dogs that are inside dogs mostly and only get bathed every month or 2. I highly recommend it, but it is a little additional work with preparation and all.

Oh and they eat the entire chicken quarters bones and all.
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#5887894 - 08/20/15 03:52 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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Sounds like more trouble than its worth to me.
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#5887919 - 08/20/15 04:13 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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Only trouble is remembering to defrost the chicken the day before you run out. I could go buy a bag of the very expensive dog food, but even it has been "cooked" and all the natural enzymes are out of it.

Regular dog food is mostly filler, that's why dogs poop so much. Corn or other grains are not in a canines natural diet. You should check into it Bill, not really a big hassle, dogs sure seem to prefer it. Sure seems to keep dogs healthier.
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#5888054 - 08/20/15 06:00 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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Dogs need fiber.
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#5888336 - 08/20/15 08:40 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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you can buy dog food without corn and alot of grains and fiber and that only crap 1-2 times a day. that sounds like a healthy digestive tract. yes foods like ol roy and they may crap 4-6 times which isnt good.

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#5888773 - 08/21/15 08:56 AM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Dogs need fiber.


I don't think so, dogs are canines same as wolves and coyotes. When is the last time you ever heard of a dog asking for a salad or tofu? Vegetables are not in there natural diet.
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#5888867 - 08/21/15 09:46 AM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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Originally Posted By: Chunky Dunk
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Dogs need fiber.


I don't think so, dogs are canines same as wolves and coyotes. When is the last time you ever heard of a dog asking for a salad or tofu? Vegetables are not in there natural diet.


Bill is right... dogs DO need fiber and it serves an important role in digestion and general health. Wolves and coyotes don't necessarily get or need the same amounts of fiber as domesticated dogs do, but they get it none-the-less. There are different types of fiber, soluble, insoluble, etc. When a coyote eats a rabbit, it usually eats it all. The tendons, ligaments, fur, and contents of the rabbit's stomach are all considered usable sources animal fiber.

Also usually dogs eat grass (fiber) because they aren't getting enough in their diet.
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#5888904 - 08/21/15 10:04 AM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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I've had several dogs that liked raw veggies. I've heard of dogs eating maters right off the vine.

If you're feeding PB, you're feeding them fiber, from a legume.


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#5888909 - 08/21/15 10:06 AM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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Originally Posted By: Chunky Dunk
Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Dogs need fiber.


I don't think so, dogs are canines same as wolves and coyotes. When is the last time you ever heard of a dog asking for a salad or tofu? Vegetables are not in there natural diet.


Eating contents of deer, rabbit is in their natural diet.
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#5889078 - 08/21/15 11:33 AM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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http://rawfed.com/myths/stomachcontents.html

http://www.associationofanimalbehaviorprofessionals.com/raw_food_diets.html

http://primalpooch.com/the-great-debate-do-dogs-need-fruits-and-vegetables/

http://rmb4healthypets.blogspot.com/2010/06/do-wolvesdogs-eat-vegetablecontents-of.html

All say different that wolves, or wild canine in fact do not eat stomach content(plant matter) of prey. Mine will eat vegetables raw, in fact they love frozen green beans. But I contribute a lot of this to them being happy to eat "people" food more so than there body needing anything from the vegetable. I could be wrong.

I do feed them peanut butter, and they are getting some fiber out of that. I do feed it for the high calorie/protein/fat content. And it is enteraining to watch them eat it!

Raw diet is not for every dog owner, it does require a little more work than just scooping out food from a bag. But the health benefits, SO FAR seem to out weigh the additional work. As far as cost, I think it is pretty much a wash, with RAW maybe being slightly cheaper in total cost. But that depends on how much of the diet you have to buy.
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#5889163 - 08/21/15 12:23 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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I think it's a crock. Purina has the largest research center in the world. I'll stick with Purina.
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#5889181 - 08/21/15 12:30 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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I feed Purina Dog Chow. Puppies get Puppy Chow for a year.
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#5889239 - 08/21/15 01:00 PM Re: Feeding Raw diet [Re: Chunky Dunk]
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I've seen many instances (evidence) of various animals that have been killed and eaten by coyotes over the years and I have yet to ever find a stomach laying around.
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