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What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:19 PM
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A scenario that might be somewhat common.
A fellow hunter and good friend shares with you, several photos of a very nice buck that has been frequenting his/her feeder for several months. It becomes obvious he/she is very intent on harvesting him.
The same deer shows up at your feeder on Opening Day.
Would you take him?
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:25 PM
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If it met my criteria, without hesitation I would take it. And I would expect the same if the rolls were reversed.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:26 PM
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If it was a deer I like and fit the bill for what I was after it wouldn't stop me from shooting it, but other circumstances would make me willing to pass him up.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:26 PM
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If he meets what im looking for no doubt I wouldn't think twice .. if its just on the border line and I have other options na.. he/she would enjoy it more...
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:27 PM
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Why wouldn't you take it if it was deer you'd be proud of?
If it's at your feeder on your lease that you paid for. I don't think it's right to claim certain deer off a place.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:29 PM
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Hunters tend to get the idea that the deer at their feeder and on their cam belong to them at least I've seen it before. Personally if it gets my blood pumping ill kill it. A free range deer is just that it doesn't belong to anyone.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:33 PM
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Hunters tend to get the idea that the deer at their feeder and on their cam belong to them at least I've seen it before. And to me, it's aggravating.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:34 PM
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I don't consider this a case of ethics at all. We all take a chance that the deer we have "been feeding" are going to also be fed by someone else. If you like the deer it's yours to take, end of story IMO.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:36 PM
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How bout this... What if it was reversed and the other fella just has a stand and never feeds.. comes and sits in the stand one day and pops a buck you been hunting for months.... now what have you?? would someone be upset about this? even though this guy was able to kill a deer with nothing more than hunting a crossing and no feeder?
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:39 PM
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Kill it it could be 5 miles away if in rut and in someone's else's wall
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:45 PM
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It depends on you. Would you be happier knowing you passed him up so your buddy could take him? Maybe make a prodding comment...."Hey, how do you know that buck doesn't like my feeder better!!" Maybe it turns into a friendly competition of who can down him first. If it turns into awkward silence, then you have a decision to make, but I agree with those above. You pay, you get to shoot. Plus, if the buck shows up at your feeder and not his during the season, then perhaps you are the better hunter!!??!!
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 05:55 PM
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Yes, I'd take him if he met my criteria. And I'd expect him to do the same if our roles were reversed. Only difference from your example is that I don't have an ownership mentality. I'd be happy for him whether he would be for me or not.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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How bout this... What if it was reversed and the other fella just has a stand and never feeds.. comes and sits in the stand one day and pops a buck you been hunting for months.... now what have you?? would someone be upset about this? even though this guy was able to kill a deer with nothing more than hunting a crossing and no feeder? Navosot, first of all this could never happen...(deer not being shot at a feeder I mean) but if by some chance it did, good for them.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 06:25 PM
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How bout this... What if it was reversed and the other fella just has a stand and never feeds.. comes and sits in the stand one day and pops a buck you been hunting for months.... now what have you?? would someone be upset about this? even though this guy was able to kill a deer with nothing more than hunting a crossing and no feeder? Or, what if the other hunter is a dad who told you earlier he had the deer pegged for his son or daughter? Would that have any impact on your decision?
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 06:28 PM
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How bout this... What if it was reversed and the other fella just has a stand and never feeds.. comes and sits in the stand one day and pops a buck you been hunting for months.... now what have you?? would someone be upset about this? even though this guy was able to kill a deer with nothing more than hunting a crossing and no feeder? Or, what if the other hunter is a dad who told you earlier he had the deer pegged for his son or daughter? Would that have any impact on your decision? Yes if they were respectful kids
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 06:29 PM
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Hunters tend to get the idea that the deer at their feeder and on their cam belong to them at least I've seen it before. And to me, it's aggravating. Maybe it's something that should be addressed in the lease rules.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 06:34 PM
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It's something that actually happened to me a couple of years ago when I took a very nice buck that another hunter had been watching for two years. However, that wasn't made known until after I had taken the deer.
The question is made even more complex when the two hunters have differing views on "when" a buck is ready to harvest. The hunter who has been watching the deer might have decided he needed another year before harvesting.
Again, it's something that I suspect is becoming all too common on deer leases with tracking cameras being so common as well.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 06:42 PM
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If the hunter had it pegged for his kid, it would at least give me pause. If it would be my personal best or something really unique (non-typical, drop tine, etc.) I'd definitely still take it. If its just another mature buck similar to deer I've killed in the past, I'd probably let it walk in hopes that the kid can connect. Heck I may even let the kid hunt my stand for the buck if that would give them a better opportunity. So basically, this complicates it a little more for me, but it wouldn't stop me from shooting the buck if its something really special.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 06:52 PM
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I feel like I can speak to this pretty honestly. I would shoot.... why?.... because everyone I hunt with would and would expect me to. I know in my last lease if someone got a buck on camera, we all knew it and all tried to figure out his pattern. That said, we all kind of assumed that wherever you happened to be hunting out there, if he shows, he's yours if you want him. My best friend helped me build a ground blind on a pipeline and as a result I gave him hunting rights to it (when I wasn't using it).... just so happened he was hunting there one morning and a 142" 12 point walked out.... and he shot it. I would have done the same.... not saying that in my mind I wasn't a little mad, but I couldn't blame him, in S. Ark. a 140 is considered a giant! So yeah... I'm shooting if I like the deer.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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08/18/15 07:09 PM
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My dad invited a young girl and her mother out to our place for youth weekend around 2002 or so. The girl hunted a 'crossing' as someone referred to it above and took the second largest deer ever off our place at the time, a beautiful ~130" 10pt, bigger than anything I'd shot to that point. I was a little miffed because I didn't feel like she'd earned that opportunity, and because I'd been adhering strongly to the management plan that developed such a deer. However, our neighbors took it to a whole 'nuther level and high-fenced their 400 acres because she shot 'their' deer. I got over it after seeing their response.
I hope to have the chance each year to take a great deer, but I have nieces that haven't gotten a deer yet, and I'd like my dad to get another great one while he's still hunting. So I would likely shoot a great deer that showed up at my stand but if it shows at one of theirs I'll be happy for them.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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Here a thought....... What if we didn't have to read/ answer anymore of TD stupid hypothetical ethics questions......... imagine all that could be accomplished in the world.... "something to address in the rules" that funny
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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The neighbors spent $20,000 on fence because someone killed a 130" deer? Neighbor's aren't too smart are they?
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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The neighbors spent $20,000 on fence because someone killed a 130" deer? Neighbor's aren't too smart are they? depends on if the 130" deer was a 1.5 year old deer or an 8.5 year old deer......
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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Here a thought....... What if we didn't have to read/ answer anymore of TD stupid hypothetical ethics questions......... imagine all that could be accomplished in the world.... "something to address in the rules" that funny Didn't realize your computer defaulted to opening his threads, or somebody was holding a gun to your head... The neighbors spent $20,000 on fence because someone killed a 130" deer? Neighbor's aren't too smart are they? I think it was more like $80-90,000. I didn't see the deer but I'm pretty positive he was 4.5. He'd been seen at a feeder in their place a couple of times and was killed about 300 yards into our place in a shinnery thicket.
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Re: What would you do? A question of deer hunting ethics.
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The kid situation actually happened to us about 3 years back. My daughter and I had been watching a 12 point split brow buck all through the summer. Then on opening weekend a guy that is notorious for filling feeders the Friday night before opening morning shot that buck on Saturday morning. The whole camp was furious. He thought it was good strategy to fill the feeders suddenly and make the deer move in a different direction than normal. This didn't sit well with the other leasers. As clearly there was nothing to be gained by making an issue, my daughter and I took it better than the others and we went back hunting. The guy that shot that buck felt badly, an apologized to me often, but I understand hunting, you never now what might happen, we are still friends. I thought it was a great lesson. My daughter had to put in the extra work to get her deer, and it was one of the biggest taken that year. It wasn't 12 points, it was 8 points and freaking huge. And like a recent news story, she had to work for her trophy, it wasn't given to her for just showing up.
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