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#5867684 - 08/07/15 09:09 AM Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C
don k Online   content
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Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 9264
Loc: Bandera, Tx
The more I read on here about all the trouble people have with all of the above the happier I am about the way I do my hunting. People on a lease can't get along. People that lease don't like the lease. People on a lease shoot deer that pisses off others on the lease. People have differing opinions on what a so called cull is. People have differing opinions on how the lease should be run. The people that own the land have differing opinions from the people that lease the hunting on it. People that hunt and are charged by the B&C score don't know until it is scored what it is going to cost them. Now me I could give a rats rear end what a person who hunts here shoots as long as it is not an Ibex. I charge X amount for a deer with no antlers. That could be a doe or a buck fawn. I charge X amount for a deer with antlers. If a person can count then they know when they pull the trigger what the deer is going to cost. If the are happy taking a 2 year old 6 point or an old 8 point I really don't care. If they are happy then I am happy. I am not in the WT hunting business so maybe I can do things different that those that are. I raise Ibex and the deer are are just here and every year some need to be taken off. I don't worry about age I worry about numbers. Same with the Axis. For me the Axis are the most trouble. About the only thing they are good for is eating and tearing up fences. So when I have them get in I try to get rid of them. It doesn't matter if they are spikes or 30"ers. I have taken all the antlered deer I have a wish to in my 68 years. Now when I take a deer it is can I load it. Just like the fairly large Axis Buck I have running around here now. I would have to get the tractor with the bucket to load it. What I see is how many pounds of Rib Eye I can buy for what I sell it for. I am sitting here now waiting for a guy to come pick up an Ibex I had on Wildlife Buyer and I thought I would entertain you for a while.
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#5867691 - 08/07/15 09:16 AM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 10/19/12
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Reminds me of the birthday card I saw once that read "You know you're getting old when you watch Gone With The Wind and when Rhett carries Scarlett up the stairs, you think to yourself 'He could throw his back out doing that.'"
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#5867748 - 08/07/15 10:04 AM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 03/26/12
Posts: 21060
Loc: Nurturing Biosphere Mothership
Oh we are all Happier than you think Don...its just the one or two that try to stir it up..

I go by a simple process..

If its mature enough and Daddy Likey Daddy Kill up I don't sweat the fence size or caliber rofl
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#5867751 - 08/07/15 10:06 AM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Now with that being said I am heading down to try and Founder a few by sling Large amounts of Protein roflmao
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#5867985 - 08/07/15 12:07 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 11/01/12
Posts: 6454
Loc: Lubbock, TX
Originally Posted By: don k
blah blah blah I am not in the WT hunting business blah blah blah.


This should sum it up.
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#5868013 - 08/07/15 12:28 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Natty Love

Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 25909
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Never had an issue with people on any lease iv been on.. I watched issues unfold on some but I just grabbed a beer and poked a stick at them.

My current lease iv been on for 5 years now and its only 500acres with 11 people and they bring family... not one issue has unfolded on that lease... mainly because no one lets stuff get to them and its a pretty relaxed place
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#5868014 - 08/07/15 12:29 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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#5868064 - 08/07/15 01:03 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: don k
blah blah blah I am not in the WT hunting business blah blah blah.


This should sum it up.
And you are the type I am talking about.
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#5868116 - 08/07/15 01:32 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 11/01/12
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Loc: Lubbock, TX
Originally Posted By: don k
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: don k
blah blah blah I am not in the WT hunting business blah blah blah.


This should sum it up.
And you are the type I am talking about.


Why? Because you came on here tooting your own horn in a way that talks down to a lot of the people on here?
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#5868132 - 08/07/15 01:46 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 12/30/12
Posts: 4152
Loc: Helotes, Hext
It is all fun and games until someone shoots an Ibex.
grin
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#5868149 - 08/07/15 02:01 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Loc: Parker County
His land, his opinion, his rules. I respect that. Don't necessarily agree with all the points, but based on what you read on here, he is spot on that these issues have come up repeatedly with others.
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#5868156 - 08/07/15 02:04 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 11/19/08
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Loc: Kingwood
So while you're willing to entertain us, go out and take pics of the spike buck you were running the experiment on.

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#5868190 - 08/07/15 02:29 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Cool rant, Don. Can you show us which hill you are sitting atop of at your place and looking down on lease hunters from?

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#5868230 - 08/07/15 03:00 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 9264
Loc: Bandera, Tx
WOW,I must have hit a nerve or hit close to home with a few of you. I am sitting about where the V is. I don;t look down at anyone. I just read the posts on here and everything I wrote about has come up on here. That is why I am glad I do things the way I do. If that offends anyone then so be it.
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#5868248 - 08/07/15 03:22 PM Re: Leases,leasee's,leasors mature deer, culls, management, B&C [Re: don k]
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Registered: 11/01/12
Posts: 6454
Loc: Lubbock, TX
Originally Posted By: don k
WOW,I must have hit a nerve or hit close to home with a few of you. I am sitting about where the V is. I don;t look down at anyone. I just read the posts on here and everything I wrote about has come up on here. That is why I am glad I do things the way I do. If that offends anyone then so be it.


Just seemed very high-horse-ish, don. You are very blessed to have your own place (as am I) but others aren't so fortunate, and no matter how hard a person tries sometimes he/she ends up in a bad situation with a leasee, leasor, land-owner, or heck even a family member. A large majority of the guys on here seem to be people that want to do right by others, and have others do right by themselves, and it is very frustrating when you hold up your end but others don't. When you start talking about the money factor it only compounds a lot of the situations and emotions. Again, you are blessed to be able to make your own rules and your situation dictates those rules work for you. Good luck with the Axis, and it might be worth breaking out the FEL to load up a tasty one!
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