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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/07/15 10:22 PM
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Borrowed a buddy's tractor last year with tires with slime. Ended up with flat tires because of mesquite thorns. ALso have used RTV tires with slime and had them leak from thorns. On top of all that there are some staubs that can and have punctured tires we have out there. We have used foamed tires in the past with no issues. Used tires with slime and had issues - simple as that. maybe the thorns on our place are just bad [censored] thorns
STXranchman thanks again for the lead on a rental place -
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/07/15 11:00 PM
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Have you considered contracting it out so you really don't have to worry about what happens to equipment?
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/07/15 11:11 PM
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Stobs make a big hole. Slime won't fix that. Rear tires need a gallon of slime each. Front tires less. My tractor could mow that as it's no worse that what I do regularly I bet.
About foam. As I said, expensive and heavy. I put new tires on my restored NAA. It needed front weight to handle 6' bush hog. I filled the new front tires. They're almost as heavy as the slimed read tires. It cost me a bunch!
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/08/15 01:24 PM
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Water. I use water in all my tires, about 80% fill capacity, coupled with a sealant that my tire dealer provides. I've had two flats in 10 years both against metal objects in the ground. The water adds a lot of weight to the tractor which helps when you have an implement in the ground and makes the tire just tougher then heck. I have a Kubota 8540 that I use about 450 hours a year under all kinds of conditions on my ranch.
I've been doing a lot of field work turning huisache into cleared areas in order to plant native grass to support bobwhite quail. The areas are cleared by a dozer and then I run a root plow, disc, tooth harrow and cultipack. The dozer leaves a lot of stobbs behind but I've had no issues. I hit a stobb with my front tire in a turn this week and my door glass was sprayed with water/sealant on the partial tire rotation and nothing after one complete rotation.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/08/15 01:48 PM
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I have heard water is good too - our problem is we are renting a tractor and nobody we can find uses foam or water - stxranchman sent me to a place that does have the foam but they will not reserve a tractor - they are hours away and you have to drive to their shop, walk in, and hope it is not reserved already - anyway we are still looking
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/08/15 01:52 PM
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They won't deliver you a tractor?
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/08/15 02:35 PM
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/08/15 05:13 PM
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They won't deliver you a tractor? Nope - this place provides a trailer but you have to go to them to get it
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/08/15 05:32 PM
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/09/15 01:31 AM
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Can't you call them and give then a credit card # for the days you want it?
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/09/15 02:12 AM
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Can't you call them and give then a credit card # for the days you want it? trust me I tried everything I could - guy says boss says no reservations -it is what is is - we will figure it out and find something - if I have to go buy a dang tractor and fill the tires up I will -LOl
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/09/15 02:39 PM
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Can't help with anything about renting a tractor, but I had both front tires on two of my tractors foamed about six years ago and it's been one of the best things I ever did. I went through every type of commercial slime the different tire companies had. The purple stuff seemed to be the best, but they all have their limits and then they just wont work at all.
It's cheap to get a flat fixed, but it does ruin an entire day of getting anything done. It was about $200 for each tire to get them foamed. They are super heavy, which is great for traction. I have no need to add bumper weights.
All four tires that where foamed on the two tractors are tore up. I have most clay soil with black locust being the worse tree for thorns. I don't know what tears chunks out of the tires, or where the holes in them come from, but I don't really care because I can keep going through anything I want. I probably get one flat on a rear tire per year, so it's not really worth the money to have them foamed.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/10/15 07:45 PM
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I should have mentioned that you could call Victoria Oliver in Victoria. I know they took a 115 HP Kubota on trade and they are a bit "deep" in it so they are renting it to get it to a sell-able value. I saw it going out with a 15' batwing on rental last week while I was there buying some consumables for my Kubota.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/10/15 11:17 PM
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Can't you call them and give then a credit card # for the days you want it? trust me I tried everything I could - guy says boss says no reservations -it is what is is - we will figure it out and find something - if I have to go buy a dang tractor and fill the tires up I will -LOl Probably took the guy getting burned several times to make a zero tolerance rule like that!
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 04:57 PM
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I would be careful with a foam filled tire. We did that to the front right tire this past summer because of recurring flats. The tire was too heavy for the tractor components and sheared off completely. We had to tow it back with the skidsteer.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 05:07 PM
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Somehow I doubt that the tire breaking off was the result of a foam filled tire. That loader is easily capapble of placing more strain/weight on the axle than a filled tire.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 05:14 PM
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I would be careful with a foam filled tire. We did that to the front right tire this past summer because of recurring flats. The tire was too heavy for the tractor components and sheared off completely. We had to tow it back with the skidsteer. Biggest down fall to the foam is the weight.. unless your talking rear tires or industrial equipment...
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 05:17 PM
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Unless you were driving around on the rear wheels, the tractor did not know the tire was filled. The wheel supports the weight of the tractor, not the other way around.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 05:17 PM
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I would be careful with a foam filled tire. We did that to the front right tire this past summer because of recurring flats. The tire was too heavy for the tractor components and sheared off completely. We had to tow it back with the skidsteer. Nice 5005 or is it a 575?
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 05:19 PM
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Somehow I doubt that the tire breaking off was the result of a foam filled tire. That loader is easily capapble of placing more strain/weight on the axle than a filled tire. its not that this was the cause of the whole incident it just speeds up progress if lugs are not checked
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 06:09 PM
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The tractor mechanic was pretty sure the incident was caused by the foam filled tire. When it happened the front end loader wasn't in use and we were shredding some marshy areas That front tire weighs close to 400 lbs vs the 75-100 lbs of the front left one. The lug nuts were tight but the tire completely sheared off the lug nuts. The tractor mechanic said unless you have heavier weight components (like for 4x4) he wouldn't recommend foam filled.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 06:17 PM
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400 LBS? that stuff must weigh more than concrete
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 06:20 PM
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The tractor mechanic was pretty sure the incident was caused by the foam filled tire. When it happened the front end loader wasn't in use and we were shredding some marshy areas That front tire weighs close to 400 lbs vs the 75-100 lbs of the front left one. The lug nuts were tight but the tire completely sheared off the lug nuts. The tractor mechanic said unless you have heavier weight components (like for 4x4) he wouldn't recommend foam filled.
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Re: HELP! Tractor with foam tires
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08/24/15 06:20 PM
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I just don't understand how a heavier tire equals more weight on the lugs. That extra weight is on the ground. I've been shredding for many years with my NAA with both front tires filled and no problems.
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