300wm gets more case capacity than the 338 out of that 375H&H parent case.

For the .338 suggestors, what bullet would you suggest? And therefore what BC does said bullet have?

I'm not going to shoot over 300 so I don't care! I would choose 338 to fit my requirements.

300gr AB (but rather it start faster than the 338wm would allow). Nosler shows .720, but it'll be less than that .

So a .300 WM wouldn't get the job done?

That is a very high BC.

300 bo anything more is overkill.

What I said is that, there is not enough of an increase from the 30-06 to the 300 WM in how I would use it, to justify a new gun and caliber. Within my self defined range limitations I would go to the 338 likely with 225 grains with the option to go to 250. If you want to base a desicion on long range considerations fine that's good for you. My thoughts are based on the consideration that if I'm going to go bigger, it's because Africa is in the equation, that's where I would want the flexibility.

I've owned .300 Win mag and .338 Win mag, both are fine hunting cartridges.

As one would expect, the .338 has a definite edge where larger animals are concerned. - And you can always load it down a bit, all the way to 33 Winchester, 338 Federal or 338-06 levels if the hunt that you are considering calls for less power.

If I had to pick a cartridge to handle any big game hunting situation likely to be encountered in the western hemisphere, the .338 Winchester magnum would be near, if not at the top of the list.

I've never tried .338 Win mag with a muzzle brake, it recoils but it's not so violent that you cannot learn to shrug it off with a bit of practice. My Winchester model 70 Sporter was not significantly unpleasant to shoot with this cartridge. The gun had enough barrel and weight to act like it should with it... Accurate, too.

With practice comes confidence and ability. - That is true with any cartridge, whether it has significant recoil or not.

I never spoke of long range, only asked what the BC is. What you would do makes sense, but it really doesn't apply to OP's situation.

My elk rifle is a 7 Rem Mag shooting 180 gr. Bergers, and it killed a bull at 200 yards in one shot. But 5 pages ago I explained that a factory twist won't stabilize a 180 gr 7mm, however a factory twist 300 Win Mag wil stabilize a 210 gr. I also have recent experience shooting a light weight Tikka T-3 firing 210's. Even with a brake the recoil is fairly significant.

A Hornady 225 SST is .515, A Sierra 215 GameKing .485 above 2000 fps, The Sierra Pro Hunter .455 between 2900 and 2350.

Why are we arguing about a round the op never asked about? You can argue about 338 vs 30 vs 7mm all day but it's all personal preference. They all have their pros and cons.

If I ever go elk hunting with a rifle again, which is doubtful, I will take my .243.

What else have we got to do?

I have been out for a while and Just saw this one. I love hose these run on forever so I am going to throw this one in there. I will be in Wyoming in about 4 weeks with a new 28 nosler and 175 LRs Cant wait to see how it does on the elk. Already got a good bull showing up pretty often.
Derrick

A wild guess, but I'll bet it performs like the STW.

Yup, and the STW works for elk.

What speeds does a .338 Win Mag push those?

Derrick...what do you know about guns . Taking my 300 you made elk hunting in October


If we all agree that 7mm mag or 300 win mag have plenty of power to get the Job done. Why would you go 338.

The general rule is that when comparing two cartridges of similar but not the same diameter:

Shooting the same weight bullet, the larger diameter will start off a bit faster, (More base area, less contact area with the barrel) but then will slow down a bit faster too due to a lower (for weight) ballistic coefficient.

So if the same bullet weight is being compared, it might come out close to even between a .270 and a .280 for example, or a .300 and a .338 at typical hunting ranges.

Shooting a larger weight but same BC bullet from the larger (but similar) diameter cartridge will start off slower at first, but at greater ranges will retain velocity better, exceeding the lighter weight, smaller diameter projectile at some point - and then go on to deliver higher energy levels and more killing power at the target.

The longer the range, the greater the advantage the heavier but same BC bullet will have to offer.

Any of the 3 will obviously work. I'm partial to the Tikkas, as I've been shooting them for over 15 years. I've taken my Tikka 695 in 7mm Rem Mag to Africa 3 times and taken over 30 head of game up through wildebeest and zebra sized plains game. The 160 Nosler accubond did a fantastic job on these animals with moderate recoil. You can't go wrong with this combo.

FWIW, I have guided 120+ hunters over the past 13 years for mule deer, whitetail, aoudad, and antelope in W TX. I hate muzzle brakes too.....absolutely hate 'em.

2800 to 2850

I use my tikka 300wsm

Have killed 3 Elk all with 1 shot out to 405 yards with my 300 Win Mag and 180 grain Nosler ballistic tip bullets.

I shortened my original statement to make my point more clear. I keep my ranges to 300 yards and have a 30-06, in my case, a 300 WM doesn't add a lot. I wouldn't have a dedicated elk rifle in 300 WM. I would either get by with my 30-06 or jump up to the 338 WM with an eye on an African safari.