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#5865931 - 08/06/15 09:53 AM Thinking about a new hunting upper
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I've got the urge to build an AR for Texas deer hunting. I have a spare PSA lower to build off. I am torn between 6.5 Grendel and 300BLK for this application. I already have plenty of bolt guns and a 5.56, so wanting something new. What would choose and why?

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#5865955 - 08/06/15 10:04 AM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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#5866031 - 08/06/15 10:55 AM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: ccoker]
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Originally Posted By: ccoker
6.8

What are the advantages over the 6.5? The 6.5 seems to have better energy at longer ranges and ammo cost is 1/2.

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#5866039 - 08/06/15 11:00 AM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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Shorter barrels , more Otc bullets, arp barrels, lighter weight

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#5866086 - 08/06/15 11:33 AM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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Where is 6.5 Grendel ammo half the cost of 6.8?
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#5866093 - 08/06/15 11:38 AM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: Brother in-law]
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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
Shorter barrels , more Otc bullets, arp barrels, lighter weight


Hmm. I have never found 6.8 SPC ammo to be that plentiful.

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#5866097 - 08/06/15 11:41 AM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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Originally Posted By: JESmith
Originally Posted By: ccoker
6.8

What are the advantages over the 6.5? The 6.5 seems to have better energy at longer ranges and ammo cost is 1/2.


The Grendel does have better ballistics, especially at distance, but usually shoots best out of a longer barrel. IMO for decent ammo the price is about even. Midway has 19 offerings in 6.8, only 5 in 6.5.
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#5866144 - 08/06/15 12:08 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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Around Austin, 6.8 ammo is readily available, more so than 300 in good hunting ammo.
I have both a 300 and a 6.8 and just built up my 11 year old a 6.8
He has shot deer with both and asked me to build him one as he said he had more confidence in it.

The 6.5 is a much better long rang round but you really need a longer barrel to get the most out of it.
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#5866852 - 08/06/15 06:24 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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6.5 Grendel very good little round that will do anything the 6.8 will do and beyond 300 yards do it better. Both the 6.8 and Grendel have more thump than the 300BO.

As far as the 6.8 being better in short barrels it may be but not by much if at all. There are guys using 12.5 inch Grendels on deer and hogs out to 300 yards.
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#5866916 - 08/06/15 07:00 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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I think Bill Alexander's ego/greed got in the way of it getting more widespread industry adoption.
It is a great round.

The 7mmValkerie is an interesting round out of an AR15 platform
Resized Lapua 6.5x47 brass pushing 7mmm bullets almost to 7mm08 performance

I was talking with the guy behind it today about getting one in to test and write up.
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#5866927 - 08/06/15 07:06 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: ccoker]
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Originally Posted By: ccoker
I think Bill Alexander's ego/greed got in the way of it getting more widespread industry adoption.
It is a great round.

The 7mmValkerie is an interesting round out of an AR15 platform
Resized Lapua 6.5x47 brass pushing 7mmm bullets almost to 7mm08 performance

I was talking with the guy behind it today about getting one in to test and write up.



Drool.

When you're done testing it, I'll buy it from you for a dollar and you can mail it to me for my turn. smile
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#5866945 - 08/06/15 07:14 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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They also make a 277 for ar-15s

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#5867039 - 08/06/15 08:00 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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He is too new at it to be able to afford/justify sending me the barrel and enough ammo to do a proper test.
I have enough projects on the plate right now for the forseable future..
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#5867118 - 08/06/15 08:53 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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Been real impressed with the Grendel.

Consistent groups at 500 yards. Shot 2 deer last season and both were DRT.

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#5867124 - 08/06/15 08:55 PM Re: Thinking about a new hunting upper [Re: JESmith]
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Agree with you Charles on Bill A's keeping it proprietary hurt it being accepted. The Grendel is gaining ground though with Hornady, PPU and Wolf ammo now becoming available including steel cased Wolf. Those plus AA still does ammo and several smaller suppliers like precision firearms.

Howa has a new micro length action that is beginning to show up in 223 and they say the testing is looking good so far for a Grendel chambering late this year or early next for introduction.
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