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Re: very interesting article on culling
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08/06/15 06:34 PM
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SniperRAB
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This is why the HF/LF debate will never be settled: ...researchers collected 4827 capture records from 3098 individual bucks over a 13-year period. About five percent of the unique bucks captured had a gross Boone and Crockett score above 150, two percent were above 160, and only half a percent scored above 170. Four out of 3098 bucks grossed above 180, two out of 3098 grossed above 190, and only one buck in 13 years involving nearly 5000 capture records gross scored above 200.
“That gives you an idea of how rare those really big native deer are in the wild,” Hellickson told listeners. “In fact, the average gross score of the bucks captured in this study that were 5.5 years or older was 130.” Also tells me I might need to adjust my expectations and quit griping about only seeing 120" 8s. We will pick certain years and go 8 Point only and thin that out...
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: tlk]
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08/06/15 06:43 PM
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rifleman
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Not enough, more than enough. Rain creates a ton of resources, downside is it also leaches nutrients. Fewer mouths aren't going to alter soil issues contributing to the nutritional probs.
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: tlk]
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08/06/15 06:43 PM
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don k
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I realize I know "squat" compared to most on here. How do you manage deer when you don't know what the following year will be like? It may be a wet year and the CC is 1 deer to 10 acres. It may turn off dry and the CC is going to be 1 deer to 50. Unless you have very deep pockets and don't really care what it cost to feed the deer it really doesn't matter. CC's are not in that equation.
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: tlk]
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08/06/15 07:08 PM
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rifleman
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Ours doesn't vary as much as other areas. A lot of people figured out this year that the over abundance of rain hurt them more than it helped. Our place just isn't set up that way.
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: don k]
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08/06/15 07:11 PM
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SniperRAB
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I realize I know "squat" compared to most on here. How do you manage deer when you don't know what the following year will be like? It may be a wet year and the CC is 1 deer to 10 acres. It may turn off dry and the CC is going to be 1 deer to 50. Unless you have very deep pockets and don't really care what it cost to feed the deer it really doesn't matter. CC's are not in that equation. Its a Long Term Process on our end and a combination of a Protein Feeding program from Feb-Sept although I choose to feed year round...Biggest challenge we have is people need to SHOOT DOES
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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08/06/15 07:35 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Our browse isn't protein rich like other areas of the state. You aren't going to magically create a natural habitat that is that way and cutting mouths is not going to free up things that don't exist. It's not a genetics issue, it's a nutritional issue that won't allow genetics to be expressed. Do you have spikes? Yes and 180" plus deer. So are you saying if I kill all my spikes I will have 250" deer?
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Re: very interesting article on culling
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08/06/15 08:07 PM
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stxranchman
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Our browse isn't protein rich like other areas of the state. You aren't going to magically create a natural habitat that is that way and cutting mouths is not going to free up things that don't exist. It's not a genetics issue, it's a nutritional issue that won't allow genetics to be expressed. Do you have spikes? Yes and 180" plus deer. So are you saying if I kill all my spikes I will have 250" deer? Why of course you will
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: tlk]
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08/06/15 08:42 PM
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cyberpyrot
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Just bread them with camels and be done with it. I like hunting for meat the more humps the better.
I'm a terrible shot but I follow up with a grenade!
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Re: very interesting article on culling
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08/06/15 09:30 PM
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txbobcat
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Just bread them with camels and be done with it. I like hunting for meat the more humps the better. White or wheat???
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: tlk]
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08/06/15 09:44 PM
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rifleman
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Shake n bake.
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: cyberpyrot]
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08/06/15 10:41 PM
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don k
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Shake n bake. Just bread them with camels and be done with it. I like hunting for meat the more humps the better. I never breaded a camel but I did have a chicken fried steak at Herman Sons in Hondo at lunch today.
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Re: very interesting article on culling
[Re: don k]
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08/07/15 05:27 AM
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therancher
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I realize I know "squat" compared to most on here. How do you manage deer when you don't know what the following year will be like? It may be a wet year and the CC is 1 deer to 10 acres. It may turn off dry and the CC is going to be 1 deer to 50. Unless you have very deep pockets and don't really care what it cost to feed the deer it really doesn't matter. CC's are not in that equation. Don't try to talk logic with folks who want to believe they can cull their way to prosperity.
Crotchety old bastidge
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