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#5863673 - 08/04/15 08:51 PM Remington 700 upgrade suggestions?
BoltVanderhuge Offline
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Registered: 11/17/14
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I have a Rem 700 ADL with a SS barrel and synthetic stock in 30-06. I have never been able to consistently get this rifle to shoot groups much tighter than 2" at 100 yds. I've tried different brands of ammo, different bullet weights, scopes, and mounts, and decent amount of practice. I'm far from a great shot, but I do have another rifle that I can get much tighter, so I don't think it is all due to me. While I'm sure this is probably "good enough" for deer at 75 to 125 yards, I'd like to try to squeeze a little more accuracy out of it.

With that in mind, I'm thinking of replacing the trigger and/or stock. It has the factory trigger (went thru the recall) and factory stock. Stock is not bedded and barrel is not free floating. Any opinions on which direction I should go first, or should I look in a different direction before those steps? Over the next year or so I'll probably do both, but I'd like to do one of the two now. Any input is appreciated.

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#5863718 - 08/04/15 09:05 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
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1. Free-float the barrel. A forearm in contact with a barrel tends to be detrmental to consistency.
2. Put a Timney trigger in it. Recall or not, I will never trust a Remington trigger.
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#5863734 - 08/04/15 09:16 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
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Check the muzzle make sure it's properly crowned, a sight nick or lack of symetry could cause your problems, if it's fine then do the stock.
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#5863750 - 08/04/15 09:23 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
1. Free-float the barrel. A forearm in contact with a barrel tends to be detrmental to consistency.
2. Put a Timney trigger in it. Recall or not, I will never trust a Remington trigger.


You might as well bed it while you're doing those too. I'm betting those steps will cut the groups in half or better
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#5863923 - 08/04/15 11:22 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
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Dump the plastic ADL stock and upgrade to at least a Bell & Carlson Medalist or a HS Precision. Watch for both on eBay and you can sell yours there.

For a bit more, McMillan is a major step up.

Have a competent gunsmith bed the stock.

A better quality stock will make it far more pleasant to shoot in addition to adding rigidity which likely will improve accuracy.

Make sure the barrel is really clean.

Try using Barnes Copper Solvent followed by some oil to clean it out, and/or Wipe Out.

In addition to what the others said, try different types of ammo.

Some will shoot better than others in the rifle, or try contacting ChadTRG42 here on the forum to work up some custom ammo for you.

Other factors, what scope and mounts are you using?

How often do you practice?

Accuracy is a result of four factors, all of which have to be in sync - a good rifle, good scope and mounts, good ammo, and most importantly a good driver behind it all.



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#5863940 - 08/04/15 11:52 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
bigjoe8565 Offline
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I'd start with a B&C stock and Timney trigger. If these two upgrades don't get you where you want, you can have it bedded.

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#5863948 - 08/05/15 12:42 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
Nighteagle Offline
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Registered: 11/17/12
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Seriously, I think you are barking up the wrong tree...lipstick on a pig is still always always gonna be a pig...you are wasting your coin and your time trying to get a remmy in that condition to shoot...sell it and Take that money, plus the money you were going to spend on it and buy a shooter... You will prolly end up going that route anyway and you will be much happier and have a gun that will split hairs...


Edited by Nighteagle (08/05/15 12:46 AM)

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#5863958 - 08/05/15 01:59 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: Nighteagle]
BoltVanderhuge Offline
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Registered: 11/17/14
Posts: 9
Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

Originally Posted By: nsmike
Check the muzzle make sure it's properly crowned, a sight nick or lack of symetry could cause your problems, if it's fine then do the stock.


The muzzle is crowned, no flaws visible to the naked eye.

Originally Posted By: jeffbird


Make sure the barrel is really clean.

Try using Barnes Copper Solvent followed by some oil to clean it out, and/or Wipe Out.

Other factors, what scope and mounts are you using?

How often do you practice?

Accuracy is a result of four factors, all of which have to be in sync - a good rifle, good scope and mounts, good ammo, and most importantly a good driver behind it all.



I've been in the habit of cleaning after every trip to the range, which is on average twice a month, shooting about 20 rounds a trip. Normal routine is to use Sweets for copper fouling followed by Hoppes for powder/lead, then a patch with a little oil before it goes into storage. I did see posts from ChadTRG42 and FiremanJG that a slightly fouled barrel can improve accuracy, and taking a cold barrel shot without removing oil can lead to fliers.


Originally Posted By: Nighteagle
Seriously, I think you are barking up the wrong tree...lipstick on a pig is still always always gonna be a pig...you are wasting your coin and your time trying to get a remmy in that condition to shoot...sell it and Take that money, plus the money you were going to spend on it and buy a shooter... You will prolly end up going that route anyway and you will be much happier and have a gun that will split hairs...


I hear where you are coming from. From a economical point of view, you are absolutely right, but the rifle was a gift from my wife and my inlaws, and holds sentimental value. I'd be a turd to dump it.

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#5863972 - 08/05/15 05:22 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
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So you're shooting only 20 rounds and cleaning it every time?

That is a big problem. About round 20 you get it good and fouled and ruin it by cleaning it. Try letting it go without cleaning it after every range trip. Chad and I let our go for hundreds of rounds before cleaning.
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#5864007 - 08/05/15 06:42 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: FiremanJG]
BoltVanderhuge Offline
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Registered: 11/17/14
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
So you're shooting only 20 rounds and cleaning it every time?

That is a big problem. About round 20 you get it good and fouled and ruin it by cleaning it. Try letting it go without cleaning it after every range trip. Chad and I let our go for hundreds of rounds before cleaning.


Yeah... Somewhere along the line I was told or got it into my head that was how I needed to take care of my rifle. I don't post a whole lot here, but I do read quite a bit. I was a little dumbfounded when I read what you and Chad posted on some other threads. I'll be changing that. Live and learn I guess.

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#5864020 - 08/05/15 06:56 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
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First of all, I agree with fireman. You're cleaning that thing way too often. If you still get the need to clean it that frequently, just get a bore snake and run it every so often. But a good clean with solvent is not necessary all the time.

I had pretty much the same rifle but not SS and I understand getting committed to a rifle even though it might cost some coins. The Timney trigger will by far get you the most meaning and impactful improvement in results. I ended up getting a hs precision stock and that improved it only marginally. Just enough to notice a small difference. If your spending some money anyways, I'd also suggest ditching whatever scope mounts u have and switch to Talley rings. If at all possible see if u can get a torque wrench to ensure they're installed as properly as possible.

I'd go rings, trigger and then stock. Good luck.

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#5864069 - 08/05/15 07:53 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
Revoman Offline
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New trigger and stock should do it. What glass do you have on it? This also makes a big difference.
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#5864094 - 08/05/15 08:18 AM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
jeffbird Offline


Registered: 03/09/09
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Here is another vote that is cleaning too often. With a stainless barrel, there is no need to clean until groups open up more than the usual pattern. I clean mine every 400 - 500, unless there is a change in ammo.

Good luck.

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#5864482 - 08/05/15 12:27 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: BoltVanderhuge]
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Originally Posted By: BoltVanderhuge
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
So you're shooting only 20 rounds and cleaning it every time?

That is a big problem. About round 20 you get it good and fouled and ruin it by cleaning it. Try letting it go without cleaning it after every range trip. Chad and I let our go for hundreds of rounds before cleaning.


Yeah... Somewhere along the line I was told or got it into my head that was how I needed to take care of my rifle. I don't post a whole lot here, but I do read quite a bit. I was a little dumbfounded when I read what you and Chad posted on some other threads. I'll be changing that. Live and learn I guess.


He's right. I have a question. Are you recoil sensitive at all? You think maybe you're flinching a little before that ADL stock kicks you?
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#5864488 - 08/05/15 12:30 PM Re: Remington 700 upgrade suggestions? [Re: Nighteagle]
Bullfrog Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nighteagle
Seriously, I think you are barking up the wrong tree...lipstick on a pig is still always always gonna be a pig...you are wasting your coin and your time trying to get a remmy in that condition to shoot...sell it and Take that money, plus the money you were going to spend on it and buy a shooter... You will prolly end up going that route anyway and you will be much happier and have a gun that will split hairs...


Itll be a pretty pig! roflmao

Seriously, I disagree with all the hate for Remington. Mine will shoot lights out if it stays cool. Heat that barrel up and it's all over.
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