Just around Hwange park.

There does seem to be a double standard in some folk's reactions to women posing with trophies as opposed to men. While male hunting personalities do get some flak, the female hunting personalities seem to get it a lot worse overall.

Please Mr. Supreme Dr. sir. Explain to this ignunt bumkin exactly what an "inaccurate fact" is..

You sure are entertaining if nothing else.

Absolutely. Probably because in most areas of the world people don't think women hunt too. The university that Sabrina Corgatelli works at said they were inundated with calls and emails around the clock demanding that she be fired. For what??? As if she had committed a crime. She's not a poacher. This is ridiculous, and now that these ignorant brats are seeing that they're getting their way with airlines and new regulations in Africa, they're just going to get worse. It has to stop, and there has to be negative reinforcement. If someone so much as calls me a poacher on my facebook page I'm going to slam them with a slander lawsuit. Once enough examples get made of these people they'll start thinking twice about harassing people with their idiocy.

But , they have a hashtag!!!

Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. I've also got a response for the sticks and stones

Is that the same science that is letting the CWD infected herd in West Texas live? What is preventing CWD from not spreading out there?

On a positive note, I don't do FAKEBOOK but I do take a peak at the east Texas 903 outdoors once or twice a season to look at the local deer kill. The real gigantic high fence looking deer always get hammered by everybody, because its obvious that the deer aren't from around here in a natural wild kind of state. Hey I don't comment on them , because Im not even a member. There is plenty of hateful people just waiting to tromp on anything they can, I wouldn't let it bother you. I can assure you they wont take hunting away from me, because I do what I want where I want and when I want to do it, and there aint no yuppies out there that are capable of stopping me.

That is incorrect.

Yelp... I'm also still wondering if they closed Mule deer and elk season in CO or Wyoming.....48 years later........

In what way? If you are referring to the fact that some still allow certain trophies (like whitetail or elk), it doesn't really take away from the loss of all of the other species, or the fact that they are restricting our ability to hunt legal game in any way.

A disease outbreak in deer within a high fenced area can be controlled, a disease outbreak in a wild population cannot really be controlled (especially this kind). If the threat of spreading CWD to another (or multiple new) areas can be avoided by confining and killing high fenced deer if necessary, then that is the obvious choice. The Mule Deer in West Texas are isolated and the threat of spreading is low. There is no great choice for them at this time. Killing their entire population to prevent the risk of spreading would disrupt the entire ecosystem, and prevent evolution from producing some kind of resistance.

You really like to use the word obvious don't you?

The only thing obvious to anyone with common sense is you don't know what the hell your talking about.

None of you that are advocating slaughtering all these deer can answer the simple question of why this disease has not wiped out all those Mule Deer in west Texas by now.

Because none of you have a clue. You all outsmart yourselves with your arrogance. If you could turn on the common sense portion of you brain you might consider some simple answers. Like maybe this disease has been around as long as we've been hunting cervids. Did it not occur to anyone we are seeing diseases now because the deer are captive and we have access to them their entire lives on a daily basis. Just the opposite of the wild populations.

I find dead dear skulls every year on our 10,000 acres that by that time no one could say for sure what killed the deer. It could of been CWD.

I'd assume low density doesn't concentrate them. If there's multiple positives and low density that's pretty alarming. Shouldn't have restocked from CO. Just an educated guess though, no expert on that. I have noticed talk of MD expanding and coming into higher density WT areas so that's something to consider.

You can still check capes and horns so saying that you can not ship trophies is incorrect.. Total of 5 animals are banned.... Anything coming in from another country still has to go through a USFWS port of entry. If you are coming from Africa chances are you have a whole crate filled with skulls, capes, horns etc. so most likely you used a freight forwarder and broker to get you through all the red tape. There is a reason UPS spoke up.... They are in competition for that business with other air and sea freight companies not Airlines

Perfect example...aircanada banned lions, leopard, elephants rhino and water buffs..... Air Canada has no African flights.

And "water buffs" aren't in Africa.

CNN posted a picture of "the big five"...one of them was a bison.

Right.. Feel good for show policy

On the quote in red, Really? I did NOT KNOW THAT!

Please mr Dr. sir. educate us. Exactly what state has CWD in breeder pens that doesn't have it in their "wild" populations??

Is it ok if I don't hold my breath till you get back with us on that??

On the quote in blue, you do know that the state want's to kill all the deer that left that ranch right? That includes stockers on open land, so that eco system doesn't count? And, even more contradictory, what better group of study animals could you find that would "evolve to produce some kind of resistance" than a captive breeder pen??

I'm not sure what kind of Dr. you are, but it would be really helpful if you'd identify that for us/me. Consider it a PSA helping me/us determine what discipline to be less impressed with.

I already explained why in the thread on that topic. Go read it instead of contaminating this one.

You keep asking questions about why the situation is being handled the way it is, and I tell you. Sorry it's not what you want to hear or understand. If you want to rant about it go to a thread that is actually about that topic.

Actually that's not how the situation is being handled mr la langue carabine.... There is a reason why that herd is still standing despite TPWD efforts.... Amazing what happens when "elected" officials decide to let people whom are actually skilled in animals diseases step in. TAHC isn't trying to kill the herd.

Jesus. Fine, let's turn this thread into another CWD thread. Regarding the Mule Deer, states have moved away from the wild population eradication strategy based on what has been learned from Wisconsin's attempts. As I previously mentioned, that is not the case with contained deer populations. Which is why all of the deer in the enclosure with the Medina county deer were killed. The Mule Deer in West Texas are designated as low risk for spreading, and the management and surveillance program has suggested that it is confined to the Hueco Mountains.

please refer to State CWD breeder protocol for deer seperation

� If the epidemiological investigation determines that the herd was not commingled with an animal from the CWD-positive herd, the herd will be reinstated to its former status, and the time spent in Suspended status be counted in its herd status.

� Animals are commingled if they have direct contact with each other, have less than 10 feet of physical separation, or share equipment, pasture, or water sources/watershed.

So why we getting trigger happy?

If you know about protocol that differs then please post it. Infectious disease protocol that I know of, including what has actually been done in past situations, is what I have described in other posts and alluded to in this post. And honestly, TPWD is going light so far this time. Probably because they took a lot of criticism from what happened the last time there was a CWD scare on a HF ranch here.

That protocol is not different than what I am aware of. That's why all of the deer in the enclosure were killed. Protocol also states that the rest of the deer on the ranch must be tested at time of death. You're arguing with me for no reason. I never refuted any of this.