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#5856522 - 07/31/15 02:39 AM Cam Hanes, Joe Rogan Cecil video
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After browsing a ton of articles this week on the topic I've found Cam Hanes and Joe Rogan put it out there simple but on line the best way I can refer anti or pro to the situation or hunting in general.
http://huntervids.com/videos/cam-hanes-and-joe-rogan-discuss-cecil-the-lion/

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#5856605 - 07/31/15 07:19 AM Re: Cam Hanes, Joe Rogan Cecil video [Re: AllTheAbove]
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Couldn't watch it all. Too long.

Good take. Agree with 95% of their points.

Two takeaways:

1)While they hit the nail on the head about the anthropormorphizing of animals and how this leads to the bunny-huggers, they turn right around and do the same thing by attaching negative human qualities ("ferocious", "mean", "murdering" cubs, etc., etc., etc.) to the lion. Animals are animals. Lions kill. Gazelles get eaten. Fish swim. Anything attached to their actions from a human emotional standpoint is just human mental gymnastics. There are not "good" animals or "bad" animals. There are just animals. They do what God wired them to do.

Antis are full of BS when they get mad at hunters for shooting the "pretty animals".
By the same token, we hunters shouldn't try and justify hunting Class A predators because they are "ferocious, mean murderers".

We hunt animals because we are wired to do so. Conservation benefits greatly from hunting.

2)I'm not a prude, but all the cussing was unnecessary and counterproductive in a video designed to enhance public awareness on behalf of hunting.


Edited by Nogalus Prairie (07/31/15 07:31 AM)
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#5858107 - 08/01/15 01:33 AM Re: Cam Hanes, Joe Rogan Cecil video [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie


2)I'm not a prude, but all the cussing was unnecessary and counterproductive in a video designed to enhance public awareness on behalf of hunting.


Why would that make you a prude? The Scripture tells us "not to let any unwholesome word proceed from your mouth."

Based on that principle, it makes you an upright man.
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#5858143 - 08/01/15 06:40 AM Re: Cam Hanes, Joe Rogan Cecil video [Re: AllTheAbove]
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I took notes. That was some impressive cursing.
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#5858728 - 08/01/15 04:22 PM Re: Cam Hanes, Joe Rogan Cecil video [Re: Reloder28]
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Originally Posted By: Reloder28
Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie


2)I'm not a prude, but all the cussing was unnecessary and counterproductive in a video designed to enhance public awareness on behalf of hunting.


Why would that make you a prude? The Scripture tells us "not to let any unwholesome word proceed from your mouth."

Based on that principle, it makes you an upright man.


Not well stated by me at all.
What I should have said is, "Just because I am used to hearing many folks do it...."
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