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#5843867 - 07/22/15 09:04 PM Place in the Hill Country
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I am trying to figure out if anyone else is NOT seeing any axis deer, or lack of exotics for that matter, in our area. Our place is just east of Rocksprings off HW 41 just past 335. We are on CR230 about 3 miles down. The place my buddy and i have is pretty small(160 Acres)but we have seen nothing. We have 5 feeders out and have been feeding corn since March. We have 6 cameras out and have not seen a single Axis/exotic on any camera or on the stand. At first i thought because of the early rain the deer were not really coming to corn so we fed alfalfa and Chaffe hay. Still nothing. We are not trophy hunters per say, but since we are Firefighters we get some time off during the week and are able to come out pretty often. We have seen tons of hogs but very few deer. We have 1 or 2 does that come to the feeders usually once a day but not morning and afternoon. I dont expect to be covered up with deer but i am beginning to be worried. I tried really hard for a couple years now to find a place, with axis mainly, so that i could bow hunt. Now ive guided in the area alot and i know the Axis are there somewhere but whats going on? We are putting out a protien feeder next month to see if it helps. My only other reasonong is that there are neighbors on all 4 sides of me that hunt. They also all have feeders on our fence, (not too happy about that)but they have not hunted them at all so im guessing it is only going to get worse when oct and definately nov rolls around. If anyone has ay advise or lives in the area please le tme know if you are having the same issues. Also i will be out there next monthon the weekend of the 15th and 16th so if anyone wants to meet up for lunch or dinner im in. If anyone needs a hand that weekend around there im also up to help out, its always nice to meet new guys with the same intrests. Thanks in advance Darrack
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#5843889 - 07/22/15 09:19 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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We are hunting 12 miles down FM 189 coming from 277 and have seen very little axis. We can't shoot axis per landowner rules so more protein for the whitetail is mighty fine with me.
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#5843900 - 07/22/15 09:25 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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I dont think with 160 acres we could manage any whitetails so i really dont even think about it. With all the feeders set up around us as well i am certain any deer we have would be toast come rifle season. I guess what i thought was that i could hunt the hot months and enjoy being there with a a chance of seeing a few exotics every now and then. I would really like to see a few axis running around, i dont even care about bucks im just starting to get a little discouraged. I just enjoy hunting with the bow but i have sat in the rifle stand just to see whats running around and it looks very bleak.
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#5843928 - 07/22/15 09:43 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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Originally Posted By: darrack
I am trying to figure out if anyone else is NOT seeing any axis deer, or lack of exotics for that matter, in our area....... We have seen tons of hogs but very few deer.

The red part is where I would put my money if I was a betting man. No feed pens will not help deer hunting in most areas.
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#5843960 - 07/22/15 10:00 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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STX, I wondered how much that would affect everything. My only question to that would be the deer have plenty of time to hit the feeders as all of the hog pics are late at night or early in the am before the feeders go off. Would the hogs coming in bother the deer even if it is well after the feeders go off? I got most hog pics at 11 30 pm and 330 am. I will also get a couple feed pens and see if it changes any.


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#5843964 - 07/22/15 10:02 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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They (axis) are pretty mysterious creatures,,,, now ya' see them -- now you don't. I have had 2 properties outside Rocksprings, and all those exotics are pretty cautious & keep a low profile most of the time. I got lucky a couple of times, but it seemed the harder I tried to connect with them the harder they became to see. Most those exotics are traveling nomads, so to cross paths doesn't come easy. Good luck to ya' !
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#5843977 - 07/22/15 10:11 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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I agree Silly, I guided for a few years on a part of the Hackberry ranch just south of where I am now and we were covered up there. I see tons of axis coming in from I 10 on 277, so I just figured I/we were in the right spot. It's just hard to believe we haven't seen a single one. What I'm hoping is that once the browse starts getting slim they will move closer to feeders but right now it seems the whitetails are even staying away.
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#5843988 - 07/22/15 10:18 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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What is your water situation like? If you do not have water, what is the closest water to your place now?
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#5843993 - 07/22/15 10:20 PM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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We have 2 small troughs and the neighbor has a 3 acre pond. No creeks or running water close by.


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#5844076 - 07/23/15 12:40 AM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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Was just at my hunting spot in Boerne last weekend - the cams showed very few axis in the past 3-4 weeks. I had maybe 5-6 pics of axis when normally I get 30-40 a month. One of the few times my daughter and I sat all weekend and did not see a single axis on our spot. Down the road in Waring/Comfort, an outfitter that we were also hunting with that weekend had similar results - saying his cams on several ranches showed a marked drop in axis pics.

It's something that happens in the late rut - July/Aug. Had the same thing happen the past 2 years - they virtually disappear for about 2 months with only rare sightings. Then, like magic, all the same herd show back up in September.

I think it is combination of things - but one thing is for sure - when they don't want to be seen, you ain't gonna see 'em. I also think that this time of year, just post rut - the bucks and older does lay low and don't move. I have also noticed that once they show up again, many of the bucks have dropped horns.

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#5844078 - 07/23/15 01:09 AM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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Thanks John I sure hope your right. I have a elk hunt in NM in Sept but I will definitely make it out there first week of Oct. I will let you all know what I see on cams in Aug but like I said we have had them out since March and not a one so far.
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#5844173 - 07/23/15 07:33 AM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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What I noticed is this time of the year they tended to move to lower drainage areas for the better or preferred grasses. Most of the upland grass areas are mature and seeded out. With this heat they are not very green now either. The low areas have more moisture and grasses are still green and even lush especially if cattle grazed them down to allow new growth. I had one location on a ranch, that at this time of the summer I could always find a herd of axis deer in that area. It was on a creek bottom that had a motte of Crab Apple Trees that was pretty good size that was surrounded by big Live Oak, Post Oak and Sycamore. That was a really cool area in the summer time also. The grasses on that bottom were mainly Indian Grass, Eastern Gama, and mixed Blue Stems.
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#5844205 - 07/23/15 08:00 AM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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That makes sense as most of our place is flat and with no creeks. I assume it's starting to get dry as the rains have slowed down quite a bit. We worked out there cutting the grass all weekend, it was 2 feet high but it wasn't as green as I thought it would be.


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#5844212 - 07/23/15 08:03 AM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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Axis are mainly grazers. They have certain grasses they prefer(like cattle) over others. They know where they are and what areas are best in every season. Find that area this time of the year and you will see them.
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#5844253 - 07/23/15 08:30 AM Re: Place in the Hill Country [Re: darrack]
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Even around here there are certain areas where you see them and others where never. I have a neighbor who joins me on part of a side. Most of his is LF. You see Axis with in a mile of him but never on his place.He has water, protein feeders, cotton seed and alfalfa out. Does not draw them to his place. Who knows why?
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