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#5843080 - 07/22/15 01:10 PM Fixed Power Scope for Hunting
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I am buying a SWFA SS fixed power Mil/Mil scope and I am debating what power to get. This will be put on a Remington .243. Right now I am thinking either a 6 or 10 power.

Longest hunting distance will be 700 yards and the shortest will most likely be 100. However, sometimes I hunt in a thick area and I am worried if I get a 10 power scope I will have a tough time shooting a deer at 50 yards.

What do y'all think?
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#5843095 - 07/22/15 01:17 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Fixed 10 will be fine as long as you are good at getting on target with both eyes open.
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#5843125 - 07/22/15 01:31 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Fixed 10 will be fine as long as you are good at getting on target with both eyes open.


Thanks Jason! Thats a good point, I have been practicing a lot with my .22 and at close range I am getting a lot better with both eyes open.
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#5843183 - 07/22/15 02:08 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Gone To Texas, you're asking a lot of a .243 at ranges above 500 yards! It's retained energy will be very low, and dropping fast, even at 500 yards. Shot placement at those ranges becomes even more important than when you're taking a deer at shorter ranges. For your reference, check this out:

http://gundata.org/blog/post/243-ballistics-chart/

My general rule of thumb is to make sure I have "enough caliber at the maximum range I'll be shooting at game" to deliver at least 1,000 foot pounds of energy.

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#5843229 - 07/22/15 02:48 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: mikei]
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It will have plenty of energy for a coyote
Drop is irrelevant and he knows how to compensate for it.
He also knows how to place a shot, even at 700 yards.
Generic ballistic data charts are for amateurs.
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#5843250 - 07/22/15 02:56 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Thanks, FiremanJG, you're most kind to share.

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#5843262 - 07/22/15 03:03 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: mikei]
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You're welcome.

Since your first post had zero to do with the question of a fixed power scope and more about whether or not he should even be shooting anything at 700 yards with a .243
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#5843266 - 07/22/15 03:05 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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I've got a SWFA fixed 10 on one of my deer rifles and it does everything I need in a hunting scope.

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#5843281 - 07/22/15 03:15 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: mikei]
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Originally Posted By: mikei
Gone To Texas, you're asking a lot of a .243 at ranges above 500 yards! It's retained energy will be very low, and dropping fast, even at 500 yards. Shot placement at those ranges becomes even more important than when you're taking a deer at shorter ranges. For your reference, check this out:

http://gundata.org/blog/post/243-ballistics-chart/

My general rule of thumb is to make sure I have "enough caliber at the maximum range I'll be shooting at game" to deliver at least 1,000 foot pounds of energy.


Thanks for the input but I'm not too worried about it especially with the handloads I am running.

After taking Firemans shooting class I am pretty confident taking a shot on a coyote at 700 yards.
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#5845266 - 07/23/15 07:54 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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How magnification does your binocular have? Do you ever wish they were only 6X? I don't think 10 is too much for coyote hunting.

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#5845315 - 07/23/15 08:17 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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Originally Posted By: Gone to Texas
I am buying a SWFA SS fixed power Mil/Mil scope and I am debating what power to get. This will be put on a Remington .243. Right now I am thinking either a 6 or 10 power.

Longest hunting distance will be 700 yards and the shortest will most likely be 100. However, sometimes I hunt in a thick area and I am worried if I get a 10 power scope I will have a tough time shooting a deer at 50 yards.

What do y'all think?

Sorry, but I guess I'm missing something(?) Isn't this exactly the reason they make variable power scopes?
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#5845357 - 07/23/15 08:39 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: pertnear]
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Go to SWFA.com And look at the SS HD line of scopes. Then compare prices of fixed power versus variable.
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#5845371 - 07/23/15 08:44 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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I hunted for years with a fixed 4 power. That worked fine. Then, later, I hunted for a few years with a fixed 6 power. That also worked very well. But these days, with terrific and very light variable scopes, why in the world would somebody hunt with a fixed power scope? And if all you have is a fixed 10 power, that is more of a limitation than a benefit. I say that, even though I keep my scopes set on about 8 power when hunting in open areas, but I can dial the power down when I hunt in the thick woods.

If ya gotta have a fixed power, I'd go for the 6 power. I shot coyotes out to about 400 with my fixed 6 with just the plain old Leupold Duplex reticle.

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#5846384 - 07/24/15 01:23 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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either will be a hinderance at 50 yards
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#5847898 - 07/25/15 02:49 PM Re: Fixed Power Scope for Hunting [Re: Gone to Texas]
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I tried coyote hunting with a 10x. I had a hard time keeping track of a coyote moving at 100 yards and trying to keep it in the scope in brushy terrain. That may have been all me but just a note of experience.

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