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#5841131 - 07/21/15 10:31 AM One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make
Texas Dan Offline
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One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make has nothing to do with pulling a trigger. No, one of the toughest decisions is when it's time to walk away from a lease or relationship with a fellow hunter, with the two often being closely linked. Like any relationship, there are times when things become unhealthy to the individual as a result of behaviors and attitudes that are simply not compatible. And walking away can be extremely difficult when you fear you'll be left with no place to hunt and having to start from scratch.

Having been there, I can say without hesitation that it's worth any inconvience or hardship when you find yourself having to make such a decision. And I'm sure there are others here who would quickly agree.
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#5841137 - 07/21/15 10:37 AM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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You gotta' do what's best for you, your family, and your health. Take a deep breathe, and follow 'ur gut feelings. Tomorrow will be a brighter day!! banana
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#5841150 - 07/21/15 10:45 AM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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yep, that can be a tough one! Best wishes and hopefully you can keep the friendship even while not hunting together.
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#5841181 - 07/21/15 11:00 AM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Registered: 12/29/14
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I hear you man. Got off my in-laws place last year which was free (aside from my feed) to seek better deer and hunting practices. There are some hard feelings between us and I don't think the wife will ever understand why I did it. 15+ years of seeing 90% does without having permission to shoot took it's toll, but I never argued as they were the OWNERS.

Moving on to bigger and better things with a group I can work with to improve our hunting and deer herd.
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#5841197 - 07/21/15 11:07 AM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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people are easy to ignore. Keep hunting be happy
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#5841208 - 07/21/15 11:14 AM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
Texas Dan Offline
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My most recent experience was with a lease that broke apart and left the relationship with the landowners dang near destroyed. Thankfully, I had other roots in the area and have since been able to restablish a good relationship with them.

Should I ever write a book about hunting, the title of the first chapter will be "Relationships".
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#5841386 - 07/21/15 01:02 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
My most recent experience was with a lease that broke apart and left the relationship with the landowners dang near destroyed. Thankfully, I had other roots in the area and have since been able to restablish a good relationship with them.

Should I ever write a book about hunting, the title of the first chapter will be "Relationships".


You hit the nail on the head - biggest factor on a deer lease can be the relationships - good or bad - with other hunters, with the land owners, game wardens, etc. I serve as lease boss for our group of 12 hunters. I spend a lot of time trying to find the right people to fit our group. Also lots of communication and very clear guidelines. At the end of the day it is like everything else in life - mutual respect. Hope you land on a good place
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#5841748 - 07/21/15 05:51 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: tlk]
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Originally Posted By: tlk
Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
My most recent experience was with a lease that broke apart and left the relationship with the landowners dang near destroyed. Thankfully, I had other roots in the area and have since been able to restablish a good relationship with them.

Should I ever write a book about hunting, the title of the first chapter will be "Relationships".


You hit the nail on the head - biggest factor on a deer lease can be the relationships - good or bad - with other hunters, with the land owners, game wardens, etc. I serve as lease boss for our group of 12 hunters. I spend a lot of time trying to find the right people to fit our group. Also lots of communication and very clear guidelines. At the end of the day it is like everything else in life - mutual respect. Hope you land on a good place


Thanks.

I have two small private tracts, plus access to public land that I've been hunting for years. The lease will be for some relatives who want to get into hunting. Of course, I also want to mend the relationship that suffered when the earlier lease collapsed.
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#5841777 - 07/21/15 06:07 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Hunted a place in Lampassas for 2 years. The two guys that ran the place ran it like a couple of Nazis. No matter what you did you could bet it was the wrong thing to do and they would let you know it too. One night everyone but one of the Nazis were eating outside at the dinner table. One of the lease members went inside the house to do something and the unsociable Nazi started ripping him about something stupid and that lease member smarted off back to him and the unsociable Nazi told him he was kicked off the lease. The guy comes outside and told us what happened and that was the straw that broke the camels back. We all stormed the house and tore into the unsociable Nazi to the point it dang near became a brawl! We all had the unsociable Nazi so scared he was literally in tears (no joke)! That was our last year on the lease and they never found anyone else to join their cult so they had to leave as well.

None of us ever regretted what we did that night. It had to be done and as far as I know everyone is far happier on the places they hunt now.
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#5841802 - 07/21/15 06:30 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
My most recent experience was with a lease that broke apart and left the relationship with the landowners dang near destroyed. Thankfully, I had other roots in the area and have since been able to restablish a good relationship with them.

Should I ever write a book about hunting, the title of the first chapter will be "Relationships".


Truer words haven't been said in a long time

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#5841879 - 07/21/15 07:15 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: tlk
Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
My most recent experience was with a lease that broke apart and left the relationship with the landowners dang near destroyed. Thankfully, I had other roots in the area and have since been able to restablish a good relationship with them.

Should I ever write a book about hunting, the title of the first chapter will be "Relationships".


You hit the nail on the head - biggest factor on a deer lease can be the relationships - good or bad - with other hunters, with the land owners, game wardens, etc. I serve as lease boss for our group of 12 hunters. I spend a lot of time trying to find the right people to fit our group. Also lots of communication and very clear guidelines. At the end of the day it is like everything else in life - mutual respect. Hope you land on a good place


Thanks.

I have two small private tracts, plus access to public land that I've been hunting for years. The lease will be for some relatives who want to get into hunting. Of course, I also want to mend the relationship that suffered when the earlier lease collapsed.


I understand - our goal at our lease is "No Drama" - I have all the drama at work and in life I want - when I go to the deer lease that is the last thing needed
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#5841906 - 07/21/15 07:28 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Dan a hunting lease is a hard thing to find and to give up. Piece of mind shouldn't be hard at all.
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#5841942 - 07/21/15 07:45 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: tlk]
Texas Dan Offline
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Originally Posted By: tlk
I understand - our goal at our lease is "No Drama" - I have all the drama at work and in life I want - when I go to the deer lease that is the last thing needed


Every deer camp would most likely benefit from a sign posted with those two words.
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#5841961 - 07/21/15 07:55 PM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: tlk
I understand - our goal at our lease is "No Drama" - I have all the drama at work and in life I want - when I go to the deer lease that is the last thing needed


Every deer camp would most likely benefit from a sign posted with those two words.


I agree - at our place it is pretty simple - you bring drama and you are gone. Got a problem? Then let's discuss it face to face and work it out.
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#5842436 - 07/22/15 07:29 AM Re: One of the toughest decisions a hunter can make [Re: Texas Dan]
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Loc: Arlington Tx
It must be difficult to have conflict with family or friends on a hunting lease that should be a place of mental peace with nature. I am lucky to hav a good group of hunters that get along. We have our own hunting area and our own living quarters. We take care of our own situation, feed, work, etc and hang around the camp fire at night and talk about hunting. Alcohol consumption is in moderation and at night only. It works and is enjoyable to my fellow hunters and our wives. Good luck with your future hunting.
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