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How Can You Pass???
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07/13/15 03:18 PM
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This buck would be the biggest buck I have ever shot (by a considerable amount), but I would really like to see him mature. The place I am hunting is small acreage and the guys next to me will shoot him first chance they get. If this deer comes out during the season, which is always a big IF, do I pass him up hoping that he makes it or do I put an arrow in him? Also, am I too far off when I say he is a 4 year old?
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Re: How Can You Pass???
[Re: ZMS]
#5829810
07/13/15 03:22 PM
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rifleman
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Might be a 4yo. I don't see anything about him that makes me thing that's not out of the realm of possibilities. You're the only person that can make the call on shooting him.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829815
07/13/15 03:24 PM
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titan2232
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It sucks when "if I don't shoot him the neighbor will" is in effect. Not sure on the age, but a lot of young deer are shot for this reason and there isn't much that can be done about it with small acreage.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829850
07/13/15 03:38 PM
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cameron00
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If you want him, shoot him.
He doesn't look terribly young.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829856
07/13/15 03:40 PM
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Navasot
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looks 4 to me.. id shoot him on my properties
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Re: How Can You Pass???
[Re: ZMS]
#5829862
07/13/15 03:41 PM
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Navasot
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He may make your mind up for your once he sheds the velvet.. still a great deer but I bet he looses a good bit
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829906
07/13/15 03:57 PM
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I agree that he's likely 4.5. If he'd be your personal best it would be hard to pass. I've come to feel, though, that if I have a picture of him it helps me not feel nearly as bad if the neighbors get him as he's a shared deer that I helped grow.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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07/13/15 04:04 PM
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You have almost 4 month to think about it and he has some more growing to do. Small property would greatly impact my way of thinking, surrounding property dependent. Nice looking typical buck.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829922
07/13/15 04:06 PM
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I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings OP, but killing a young deer "because the neighbors will if I don't" is the poorest excuse I hear for killing a deer. If you do so, you're no better than the neighbors. That said, a 4 year old buck is bodily mature so it's not like you're killing an immature buck.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829929
07/13/15 04:10 PM
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redchevy
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Gotta know what you are happy with.
I shot the biggest buck of my life then had some kid tell me I shot a baby because he was only 4.5 and needed more time to grow. Guess that's the difference on hunting a 320 acre low fence property (me) and out of state every year a few times for mule deer and elk and a season lease in Mexico every year his whole life on daddy's dime(him).
I laughed and shook it off pretty easy. I'm still thrilled with mine. That said after having him if a similar situation was to come up I think I would be a lot more apt to let him walk and give my dad or brother a swing at him or get bigger next year.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829943
07/13/15 04:14 PM
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DQ Kid
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You have almost 4 month to think about it and he has some more growing to do. Small property would greatly impact my way of thinking, surrounding property dependent. Nice looking typical buck. ^^^^
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829969
07/13/15 04:28 PM
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Look at it this way. IF, he is 4 yrs old, he's gotten by your neighbors for 4 years. Why wouldn't he get by one more year?
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5829983
07/13/15 04:37 PM
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hookemhorns
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The good thing is he still has another 50-60 days to grow
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830005
07/13/15 04:47 PM
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redchevy
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Look at it this way. IF, he is 4 yrs old, he's gotten by your neighbors for 4 years. Why wouldn't he get by one more year? Chances are for 3 of those 4 years he wasn't much to look at. Ive heard the saying "if you would shoot him because your neighbor would you are that neighbor" too many times. It all comes down to what your hunting for. If your hunting for an eight and a half year old 200 inch monster you gotta hunt where that deer lives otherwise you may as well not go hunting. If he is a good deer for your area and makes you happy I wouldn't try to talk myself out of him. If your not happy with him then I wouldn't shoot him just to kill something with horns and a dong.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830125
07/13/15 05:53 PM
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7ARanch
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Your place, your deer (shared or otherwise). If you like the deer and have the chance shoot it. My wife took her first buck last year. It just made AR and I had watched him several times without drawing on him, she was and still is thrilled beyond words with her deer. That's why we do this. It's a good deer no matter what you decide.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830139
07/13/15 05:58 PM
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Yes he will gain inches if he lives another year. He will also spread his genetics a little more and get smarter and harder to kill. On our place he would be protected for two more years. Your place, your rules.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830143
07/13/15 06:01 PM
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Ground shrinkage is real
If you have to talk yourself into shooting him might be wise to pass
I care 3x's as much about age as I do antler score
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Re: How Can You Pass???
[Re: ZMS]
#5830186
07/13/15 06:34 PM
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ZMS
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What y'all are saying makes sense. I do need to see what he looks like with the velvet off. Just because I wish I had a place I could manage better doesn't mean that I should pass up a deer that would be my biggest deer and make me extremely happy to harvest. If he shows up of course.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830402
07/13/15 08:49 PM
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^^^^^^ You just said it all right there: if he's your biggest deer and it would make you extremely happy to harvest, then don't even think twice about it! That's one of the biggest reasons you hunt! Don't worry, the deer are a renewable resource and there will be more. Every buck you take doesn't have to be a 6 1/2 year old 170+. Baby steps my friend, that's part of the fun.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830552
07/13/15 10:16 PM
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QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Every buck you take doesn't have to be a 6 1/2 year old 170+.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830863
07/14/15 01:36 AM
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cameron00
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^^^^^^ You just said it all right there: if he's your biggest deer and it would make you extremely happy to harvest, then don't even think twice about it! That's one of the biggest reasons you hunt! Don't worry, the deer are a renewable resource and there will be more. Every buck you take doesn't have to be a 6 1/2 year old 170+. Baby steps my friend, that's part of the fun. Well put. Get one in the bag to cut your anxiety, and you can be picky in the future.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830950
07/14/15 02:29 AM
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stxranchman
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If you like him kill him. Never, ever let anyone else decide what you should kill. He is a very nice buck.
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5830959
07/14/15 02:35 AM
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If you like him kill him. Never, ever let anyone else decide what you should kill. He is a very nice buck. Nailed it... Shut the front door
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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07/14/15 02:59 AM
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DQ Kid
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You don't sir, you like - you take him and don't look back....
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Re: How Can You Pass???
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#5831074
07/14/15 04:30 AM
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wisco-hunter
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If he's your biggest take him, it will make the next one that same size and age easier to pass up, either way good luck
Last edited by wisco-hunter; 07/14/15 04:31 AM.
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