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#5829525 - 07/13/15 06:51 AM Will others join Whataburger?
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It will be interesting to see how many other businesses take the same action as Whataburger by not allowing customers to carry their firearms in open sight of others.

My point is that if those who choose to open carry forget to pay close attention where open carry is not permitted, they could lose their CHL license if someone files charges against them, correct? Making a mistake and having charges filed against you for carrying a concealed firearm in places where they are not permitted would seem less likely since it would not be obvious that you have one.
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#5829619 - 07/13/15 08:08 AM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Under the new legislation if you miss seeing a sign the management can then ask you to leave and if you leave it is a class C misdemeanor. If you don't leave then it is a class A.

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#5830215 - 07/13/15 01:53 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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I would expect more to follow. And I wonder if other anti-gun businesses that just shrugged off conceal carry will now put up a 3006 sign as well.
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#5830410 - 07/13/15 03:54 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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I expect there will be some but, this is Texas and I believe that many businesses will relent with time.
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#5830471 - 07/13/15 04:31 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Ihunt]
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Originally Posted By: Ihunt
Under the new legislation if you miss seeing a sign the management can then ask you to leave and if you leave it is a class C misdemeanor. If you don't leave then it is a class A.


Could either result in loss of your CHL?
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#5830506 - 07/13/15 04:52 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Could it.... yes. If I owned a business I would not allow open carry. It really bothers some people. CC ok and welcomed.
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#5830551 - 07/13/15 05:16 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Does anyone know if the new open carry signs will apply to LO's or not.

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#5830686 - 07/13/15 06:33 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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if Oregon restaurants can handle it I bet texas can
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#5831196 - 07/14/15 07:26 AM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: Ihunt
Under the new legislation if you miss seeing a sign the management can then ask you to leave and if you leave it is a class C misdemeanor. If you don't leave then it is a class A.


Could either result in loss of your CHL?


I believe the class A would result in the loss of license.

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#5831295 - 07/14/15 08:48 AM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: red bluff]
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Originally Posted By: red bluff
Does anyone know if the new open carry signs will apply to LO's or not.


I assume you meant LEO (Law Enforcement Officer). If so, no, it does not apply.

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#5832810 - 07/15/15 09:35 AM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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I'm all about freedom and lack of govrrnment intrusion. The state passed open carry, great. A business has the freedom to not allow it, and I can live with it. Now if a business chosses to not allow concealed carry I have the freedom to not give them my business.
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#5832898 - 07/15/15 11:04 AM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Texas Dan]
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Gee..so all of a sudden a private business has the right to agree or disagree with lawful activity? They will refuse service to me and I can actually be charged with a misdemeanor for a legal activity? If this is allowed why are there businesses being sued into bankruptcy for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes? Could I also sue Whataburger if they refuse to serve me for openly carrying? Or are there different layers of discrimination? Some apply, some don't. I don't see how that part of the law was even allowed to be written, allowing businesses the right of exclusion. Try that with ANYTHING else and see how far it goes. "Oh, you have a nose-ring? We don't serve your type here, it makes our employees nervous."
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#5832969 - 07/15/15 12:02 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Slow Drifter]
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Originally Posted By: Slow Drifter
If this is allowed why are there businesses being sued into bankruptcy for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes? Could I also sue Whataburger if they refuse to serve me for openly carrying?


This is America. You have the right to sue anyone, anytime, for anything. Go for it!

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#5833366 - 07/15/15 05:31 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Slow Drifter]
cyphertext Offline
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Originally Posted By: Slow Drifter
Gee..so all of a sudden a private business has the right to agree or disagree with lawful activity? They will refuse service to me and I can actually be charged with a misdemeanor for a legal activity? If this is allowed why are there businesses being sued into bankruptcy for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes? Could I also sue Whataburger if they refuse to serve me for openly carrying? Or are there different layers of discrimination? Some apply, some don't. I don't see how that part of the law was even allowed to be written, allowing businesses the right of exclusion. Try that with ANYTHING else and see how far it goes. "Oh, you have a nose-ring? We don't serve your type here, it makes our employees nervous."


Whataburger refusing to serve you for openly carrying a firearm is no more discrimination that refusing to serve you for not wearing a shirt or shoes.

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#5833744 - 07/15/15 10:53 PM Re: Will others join Whataburger? [Re: Slow Drifter]
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Registered: 12/20/09
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Originally Posted By: Slow Drifter
Gee..so all of a sudden a private business has the right to agree or disagree with lawful activity? They will refuse service to me and I can actually be charged with a misdemeanor for a legal activity? If this is allowed why are there businesses being sued into bankruptcy for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes? Could I also sue Whataburger if they refuse to serve me for openly carrying? Or are there different layers of discrimination? Some apply, some don't. I don't see how that part of the law was even allowed to be written, allowing businesses the right of exclusion. Try that with ANYTHING else and see how far it goes. "Oh, you have a nose-ring? We don't serve your type here, it makes our employees nervous."


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