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#5801212 - 06/22/15 09:36 PM I just don't understand this.........?
flintknapper Offline
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I keep game cameras out all year long...primarily over some dedicated Hog stands (bait sites) so I have video of different groups of hogs, all ages...both sexes...throughout the year.

Two or three times a year I will get some video of a Hog (Boar) that has been castrated (now a Barr Hog).

Not anything unusual about that...since we have some folks around here that run 'Hog Dogs' and occasionally they will 'cut' a hog that has been caught and release it.

But here is the part I don't get: Whoever is doing this (and I am pretty darn sure I know who), is cutting the entire top half off each ear of the hog (presumably to mark it). I'm not talking about pinching the the tip together and 'clipping' it (like you might do with a Calf) but fully 1/2 of the ear...cut straight across.

What in the hell is the point of that? Now...I dislike Feral Hogs as much as anyone (been battling them for over 25 years), but I have never purposely disfigured or compromised one.

Am I the only person that questions the ethics of this kind of thing?



Edited by flintknapper (06/22/15 09:38 PM)
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#5801396 - 06/22/15 11:42 PM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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I agree with you, I don't see a need for it or even the castration.
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#5801446 - 06/23/15 05:44 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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Seems if you want to grow a big Barr you wouldn't want to handicap him
With ear problems
Marking him fine torturing him not cool
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#5801891 - 06/23/15 11:06 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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Don't see the point but I'm sure they have one. Same as the "gut shooters" justify their view point.
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#5801904 - 06/23/15 11:13 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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No reasonable reason to do that as far as I know. I don't believe in being inhumane to any creature...

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#5801920 - 06/23/15 11:20 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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No, I don't either. Cutting the ears like that is unreasonable.
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#5802260 - 06/23/15 03:09 PM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: passthru]
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Originally Posted By: passthru
Don't see the point but I'm sure they have one. Same as the "gut shooters" justify their view point.


I do not believe in gut shooting either ,,,,,,
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#5802420 - 06/23/15 04:31 PM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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I don't see why anyone would do this. How many hogs have you seen like this?
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#5802660 - 06/23/15 06:58 PM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: Hunter-Steve]
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Originally Posted By: Hunter-Steve
How many hogs have you seen like this?


2 to 3 per year. No doubt... there are others around that I don't see.

Got a young boar and a 'Barr' coming in to a feeder fairly regularly right now. IF they decide to start showing up at a more reasonable time (not the wee hours of the morning) I will go after them. Get you a picture then.

When they feed...they stay pretty close together...so the opportunity for a 'twofer' might present itself. They just need to get 'lined up' for a couple of seconds. The 405 gr. 'Remy' or 540 gr. hard cast 'Pile Driver' will penetrate both hogs....no problem.
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#5802695 - 06/23/15 07:24 PM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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Hog dogger or trapper may have kept the ears for a bounty, not unheard of.
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#5803337 - 06/24/15 08:24 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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Killed a bar hog one time, when they get cut their tusk will get supper long because they don't sharpen them anymore. Their testosterone is gone and they don't feel the need to fight for breeding purposes, so no grinding teeth. Ive been on stand and had a bore walk by me one morning grinding his tusk the hole way. He must of been gearing up for a fight with a local rival. The bar hogs tusk will look more like a spike antler than a tusk, but is still real sharp. Its kinda like a whitetail that has injured its balls. When done at the antler growth time, the antlers never come out of velvet and keep putting on more mass while the others shed he keeps his velvety horns. Im sure there is other senerios for this too. May just be gay, haha. Hey on the hog dogger thang, that's a wild bunch and just be thankful there not hunting your deer. No tellin what that would turn into. Ive done some hog doggin with some folks. It usually turns out way worse for their dogs than the hog. In the long run the hog turns into a hot commodity with those extra long tusk and it will have a trophy set of tusk that will be hunted heavily. Just think of it as a hog doggers hobby and be thankful that they are focused on an invasive species and not our GREAT AMERICAN WHITETAILS. up
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#5803343 - 06/24/15 08:27 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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I ment when they cut their nuts haha Im typing and the computer is stuttering ya!
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#5803361 - 06/24/15 08:45 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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Barrows are better eating than boars. That's why they castrate them. Do it when they are small, let them grow up.

The ear thing must be a way to recognize them as castrated from a distance for hunting purposes later.

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#5803374 - 06/24/15 08:56 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: flintknapper]
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I have seen plenty of posts about hogs missing parts or all of ears, and it is almost always attributed to dogs grabbing the ears. Is it possible the dogs are doing the tearing/biting the top half of the ear off?

I could also see this as a way to mark a hog, and also as a bounty as some counties will pay for each hog captured and this may be a way to get some money for them??

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#5803402 - 06/24/15 09:23 AM Re: I just don't understand this.........? [Re: Tommar]
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Originally Posted By: Tommar
Barrows are better eating than boars. That's why they castrate them. Do it when they are small, let them grow up.

The ear thing must be a way to recognize them as castrated from a distance for hunting purposes later.


This is the reason they do that. Make it easy to spot from a distance. I have seen it done, but don't agree with it. Small ear marking is plenty.
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