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#5799207 - 06/21/15 04:11 PM Handgun mental debacle
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Recently been thinking I would like to enter the world of 10mm, with the S&W 1006 in mind, for the purpose of close range handgun hunting, back up while bow hunting, and a large caliber self defense gun. Currently I have a S&W 13-2 .357 4" that fills this niche reasonably, but I am more a semi auto fan than that of revolvers, and I have a guilt and fear of getting the blued finish and wood grips of the 13 out in inclement weather. I don't mind buying and selling guns for the sake of boredom and personal preference, but I am curious to hear from some of the 10mm owners/hunters of there is any real world benefit in making the swap? With the K frame Smith I am limited to mediocre .357 loads and a max capacity of 6, not sure if the 10mm in a pretty hot 180 or 200gr loading would be enough thump advantage over the .357 158gr loads I am shooting when used on a deer, pig, black bear, or similiar sized animal?

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#5799226 - 06/21/15 04:25 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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I had a 1066, a 1006 would work fine, but there's the issue of the DA trigger or cocking for single action for hunting. I'm thinking that one of the 1911 based 10mm guns might not be better. Another option that comes to mind is an EAA Witness but I'm not sure if it can be carried cocked and locked.
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#5799234 - 06/21/15 04:29 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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I carry a full frame Glock 10mm that I've had forever. I depend on it and it always comes through.
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#5799322 - 06/21/15 05:44 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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You can [censored] your da revolver for the first shot.

If you're going to buy one, get a the RIA 6" double stack that's coming out soon.
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#5799561 - 06/21/15 08:47 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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I went through the same process a while back and ended up picking a standard 1911. The .45 with 200 gr ammo is certainly in the same neighborhood as most 10mm loads. Ammo, spare parts, and knowledge base all factored into it for me, plus being able to get a decent entry level weapon for $420 (RIA Tactical). Deer and pigs out to 50 yds no problem, I'd feel comfortable with black bear, ymmv.
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#5799919 - 06/22/15 07:08 AM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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I'd go 45 before 10mm for ammo availability & price if nothing else. Especially if you're going with a metal framed pistol, get a 1911 and be done with it IMHO. 45 ACP +P loads are pretty much on par with 10mm.

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#5800552 - 06/22/15 03:44 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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The 10mm is far better for hunting than any 45 ACP, with any load.

Legend has it that the 10mm with hotter loads equals a .41 magnum, but since then a cooler, more experienced reassessment puts it about equal to a hot .357 magnum.

The big Glock is the most popular 10mm hunting auto. Most of the others CAN handle full-power 10mm loads, but you wouldn't want to shoot them all of the time as it tends to batter them quite a bit. The story that I get is that the Glock handles the hot hunting loads better.

I'm not a big Glock fan, but that doesn't change the facts. - It's still the best bet for handgun hunting with 10mm.

My favorite 10mm auto is the obsolete Colt 'Double Eagle", but that's just me. I've owned half a dozen 10mm autos and the Glock was best over-all, as much as I hate to admit it.


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#5800771 - 06/22/15 05:30 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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I had been looking at 10mm semis for a while (Witness Hunter, Delta Elite, other 1911s, etc). I ended up buying a Gen 4 G20 new for under $500 on sale. I reload and wanted to run max loads, so I ended up putting a KKM barrel in it. From everything I've seen the factory barrel is fine with hot loads, but hard on brass with the not quite full chamber support around the feed ramp. On the Gen 4s, the new factory recoil spring system seems to work fine with hot loads, but I run a 22 lb spring for the thermonuclear stuff. It has been very accurate and reliable.

To me Glocks don't have much soul or character, but for a gun that I carry for backup when hog hunting out in the weather and slopping through the bottoms, I don't worry or feel bad if it gets wet or muddy, and it just plain works.

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#5800861 - 06/22/15 06:30 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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Loaded said it purdy well. Especially that last sentence.

I just don't get it tho, I think Glocks are good looking guns!
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#5800876 - 06/22/15 06:41 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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Buy a 1911 and a .460 conversion and put the 10mm to shame.
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#5801343 - 06/22/15 10:44 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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I have delta elite, g20 and g29. Like them all. 29 is a beast but self defense gun. Delta is killer accurate. 20 I carry hunting cause I don't care if it gets beat up. Check out new Sig p220 in 10mm. Looks sweet

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#5802529 - 06/23/15 05:26 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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^how is recoil in the delta elite?

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#5802591 - 06/23/15 06:10 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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What's your Budget???

Low: Rock Island with a trigger job

Medium: STI, Dan Wesson

High: Heine

Single action is the only way to go. SIG just came out with a cool new 10mm but first shot is DAO and you won't hit SH$T
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#5802671 - 06/23/15 07:06 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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Budgeted with how many other guns I have to shuffle around to get it. Juice would have to be well
Worth the squeeze though...

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#5802854 - 06/23/15 09:01 PM Re: Handgun mental debacle [Re: JThoele]
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