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#5798821 - 06/21/15 10:32 AM Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic?
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My personal experience with thermal imaging are the handheld Bullards we carry on the fire engine. I've never hunted with a T.I. scope and am thinking about one to mount ahead of my rifle scope. Do they work? If so, what would be some brands to look into?

I'll have to mount a pic rail to the stock ahead of the day optic. That's understood and no problem.
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#5798888 - 06/21/15 11:32 AM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Saw an ad for the Armasight Clip-On X Riflescope at Cabela's.

Gen 2 + SD $1,899.00
Gen 2 + QS $2,095.00
Gen 3 Ghost $4,495.00

I can't financially go as high as the last one, but what is the difference between the first two?
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#5799391 - 06/21/15 06:47 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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hammer This is night vision.

But will it still help me find hogs out to 200 yards? And kill 100 and in?
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#5799481 - 06/21/15 07:45 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Anything over Gen2 should be good past 100 with illumination. The clip ons tend to move the point of impact, so you'll have to decide which way to zero the rifle.

How are you planning on using the nv?
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#5799531 - 06/21/15 08:29 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: syncerus]
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Originally Posted By: syncerus


How are you planning on using the nv?


Not sure what you mean.
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#5799547 - 06/21/15 08:40 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Saw an ad for the Armasight Clip-On X Riflescope at Cabela's.

Gen 2 + SD $1,899.00
Gen 2 + QS $2,095.00
Gen 3 Ghost $4,495.00

I can't financially go as high as the last one, but what is the difference between the first two?



Hey I'm a dealer for Armasight if you figure out what your looking for shoot me a pm. I just ordered a Zeus 640 last week and it should be coming in this week if you want to check out a thermal scope. It's a stand alone optic but you could compare it to what you have used.

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#5799552 - 06/21/15 08:42 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: Bradgrace]
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Bring that sucker to Wolfe City this week. I plan to do some night time hunting. All my rifles wear a 20 MOA pic rail.
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#5799560 - 06/21/15 08:46 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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I'll let you know when it comes in and we can figure something out. I have been really impressed with Armasight so far.

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#5799565 - 06/21/15 08:49 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: Bradgrace]
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Charles added me to the staff of tacticalgunreview.com

I can report the findings there and here as well. Right now I am researching what I want so that I know how much money to save.
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#5799572 - 06/21/15 08:52 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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That would be awesome

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#5799779 - 06/21/15 10:50 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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I have used this one and it seemed very good. I have used another brand as well but cannot remember the brand. I just used as a hand held though.

http://www.eotechinc.com/thermal-vision-devices/lwts-light-weapon-thermal-sight


Edited by DStroud (06/21/15 10:50 PM)

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#5799800 - 06/21/15 11:07 PM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Rifle mounted NV can be set up for precision one/two shots, or for rapid acquisition. Shooting single hogs at 150 yards is very different from trying to take out the majority of a sounder at 30-40 yards. Finally, many prefer to use an IR laser on the rifle and then use a head mounted PVS14 to see the target and aim the beam. Also, there are recoil tolerance considerations in that much of the equipment will tolerate less recoil than the nominal rating. Finally, rifle mounted NV is really lousy for spotting hogs; it's heavy and clumsy. Many who go for the dedicated rifle sight subsequently find they really want an additional NV unit for spotting.

If you're going to spend $2000+, you really need to understand how you want to hunt.
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#5799937 - 06/22/15 07:21 AM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: syncerus]
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Been night time coyote hunting for decades, and the way I've always done it is a red lens spotlight. Some times have to aim for eyes, sometimes can see the body. I have access to thousands of acres of open ground. So consider me to be killing 100-200 yards most of the time.
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#5800073 - 06/22/15 09:18 AM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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I think you're on the right track for that kind of hunting. You'll want at least 4x magnification and a quality illuminator. You will probably want to use something other than the rifle scope for spotting incoming coyotes.
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#5800131 - 06/22/15 10:12 AM Re: Thermal that mounts in front of your day optic? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Standalone works better than clip on..
We have some Armasights coming in for review and we are also setup as an Armasight dealer
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