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#5788151 - 06/14/15 08:27 AM Cattle on lease?
birdman99 Offline
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Loc: LLano TX
I just secured a lease....500 acres, but it has some cattle on it. What are your experiences with deer population on land with cattle?

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#5788157 - 06/14/15 08:37 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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A lot depends on the amount of cattle. If it is stocked correctly then no problem....over stocked then it could be a problem. Is the LO running cattle or is he leasing the grazing?
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#5788170 - 06/14/15 08:53 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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With all the rain we've had unless it gets hot and dries everything up you shouldn't have problems with them.

My experience has been: look around at the browse and grass. If it's plentiful they should leave your feeders be.

If not, they can be a problem. Especially those ornry bulls. I would put up a good pen around them with hog panels anyway just to play it safe.
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#5788172 - 06/14/15 08:54 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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Usually doesn't affect the deer population but will require you to fence off your feeders.
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#5788181 - 06/14/15 09:04 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: billybob]
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moderate grazing can actually help the property - little bit of a hassle in that gates have to be closed, fenced off feeders, etc. but otherwise little impact
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#5788208 - 06/14/15 09:41 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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There's a couple hundred head on our lease. Never been a real issue. Good deer population. Like it was said above, closing multiple gates, particularly at night can be a hassle.
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#5788211 - 06/14/15 09:42 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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Overgrazing can hurt you long term. Not so much from the hunting standpoint but more of fawn survival. I am battling this issue now with the drought in my area. I have not had any cattle for a while now and the few does that live on my place have had good fawn survival. The neighboring ranches graze very hard and fawn numbers are almost nothing. I think those does that come onto my place have only raised 3 fawns in the past 2 years. Will cause gaps in the age structure and limited mature buck numbers in the future years. Hoping this year will be better for fawn survival.
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#5788241 - 06/14/15 10:06 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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I've never had great luck hunting properties with cattle and there always "seemed" to be fewer deer. The only exception would be properties where the cattle is rotated to another property or pasture before the season. It took some time for the place to "settle down" but the deer always seemed to come back eventually.
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#5788242 - 06/14/15 10:06 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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Depends on if the deer can get away from them. Does generally won't have a prob with them, but bucks tend to shy away outside of the rut activities.

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#5788278 - 06/14/15 10:31 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: kry226]
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Originally Posted By: kry226
I've never had great luck hunting properties with cattle and there always "seemed" to be fewer deer. The only exception would be properties where the cattle is rotated to another property or pasture before the season. It took some time for the place to "settle down" but the deer always seemed to come back eventually.


Same, I was on a lease and the LO put free range cattle on it. I packed up my stuff and left.

If the cattle are fenced off and you hunt another area I think it is fine, but free range cattle are a head ache.
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#5788339 - 06/14/15 11:12 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
birdman99 Offline
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Loc: LLano TX
Wow, thanks for all the great input guys.

22 head of cattle per 500 acres. Free range. With all the rains, there is a ton of grass.

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#5788363 - 06/14/15 11:25 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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I seem to have more luck not fencing my feeders where there is cattle make sure you stake down your feeders. Now with that said I don't use the 99 dollar feeders. I use 1 1/2 legs or 2' pipe for feeder legs. if you use a slide together cheap feeder hogs and cows will destroy them.
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#5788388 - 06/14/15 11:45 AM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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I put up a barbed wire fence around my feeder. Then I bought a solar powered fence charger and wired it to the top strand. Deer jumped fence, hogs went under fence, cows touched top strand and decided corn was not on the menu.
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#5788433 - 06/14/15 12:25 PM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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Originally Posted By: birdman99


22 head of cattle per 500 acres. FREE RANGE.



Not sure this is going to be a good deal. I would be leery of a land owner who has been taken in by this "free range" propaganda. Probably some liberal tree-hugging demonacrat. No telling what kind of nonsense he might come up with next!
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#5788455 - 06/14/15 12:50 PM Re: Cattle on lease? [Re: birdman99]
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They will definitely tear up a cheap feeder.

I had to run them off a few times last year but they were not too bad. The main headache was when the rancher would come through dragging his feeder trailer and making tons of racket. I think one day he came by like 5 or 6 times trying to get them rounded up. Luckily I had already shot my buck for the season so I wasn't too upset grin The rancher is super nice though and is the LO's nephew.
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