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#5757047 - 05/23/15 10:55 PM Texoma Levels
fanatiquack Offline
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Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 282
Loc: Dallas, TX
I was just wondering as I was looking at the lake levels of all Texas Lakes.
The website I looked at said that Texoma was 200+%!
How is that the case, where does the overflow go (I figure due west), and where is the "line" at which the lake is full (100%).
Gotta think all that water might even move where the normal overseeding of Millet by Plane takes place this year?
If so, doesn't that mean all previous overseeds might be underwater this year?

#5757054 - 05/23/15 11:02 PM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: fanatiquack]
passthru Offline
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Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 11232
Loc: Saginaw, Tx
It's 22+ feet high.

They can't let it go downstream right now. It will flood the cities downstream.
I work hard, drink a little and hunt when I can.
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#5757180 - 05/24/15 07:38 AM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: fanatiquack]
Dave Speer Offline

Registered: 12/27/07
Posts: 4710
Loc: Austin
Conservation pool is the elevation where they want the water to be. You know, to feed everyone's grass and such. Above that is flood pool. Bottom of the flood pool = top of the conservation pool. Top of the flood pool = water actually spilling over the dam (or spillway depending on lake, Texoma has a spillway.)

Look at this picture:

As far as where the water goes, up and out. Water only cares about elevation, not compasses or political boundaries laugh

#5757230 - 05/24/15 08:24 AM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: Dave Speer]
Fowlman Offline

Registered: 08/14/13
Posts: 546
Loc: NTX
The gates are open and have been for a few days. It's going over the dam/ spillway right now.

Edited by Fowlman (05/24/15 08:30 AM)

#5757271 - 05/24/15 09:02 AM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: fanatiquack]
WileyCoyote Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5501
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
Lake Texoma's dam was closed in 1942, and the lake was primarliy constructed to prevent the long history of catastrophic floods the region is famous for over the last 170 years since the first permanent settlement in 1845 at the Fort Preston Trading Post river crossing.

The Watershed extends west into the Texas panhandle and north into most of Southwestern Oklahoma, or about the size of the State of Connecticutt. Only the top end of the Elm Fork of the Trinity River that begins north of the Gainesville City Limit signs on I-35 draw significant water off the Red River, and the Ouchita River basin in Oklahoma drains areas from west of Hwy 75 at Durant to north of Purcell to the Texas line.

The lake is unsual in that it has 2 seaonal Pool Levels, Summer & Winter. The Summer Pool level is 617 to 619 feet above sea level. The winter Pool Level is lower to accomodate the Spring rains at 613 to 615.

Large parts of the Texoma Watershed have been in extreme drought conditions for over 5 years, only 2013's massive tornado system with 40+ touchdowns that devasted Oklahoma created any sizable rain relief, and reached the Texoma Summer Pool, but was short lived. I pulled my boat out of my boathouse on Oct 1st '13, at the end of my Realtors Sales Contract when the lake level hit the bottom of the Winter Pool.

Approx 90 days ago I could and did walk around on dry ground behind my boathouse.

The Army Corps of Engineers owns Lake Texoma, and their property line is at 645' above sea level. The 1/2 mile long Spillway, beside and in front of the Dam, is at 640'.

There have only been 4 previous overtoppings of the Spillway, according to a longtime local who worked weekends & summers on the Dam as a HS teenager from 1939-40 to the Dam Closing in 1942... 1947, 1957 I think someone said, 1991 my neighbors have said when the water level reached 643+ and people fished 50' in front of his house, 2007 when the lake level reached 641 1/2 - although the flood of 2009 reached 638+' but did not go over the Spillway, and now in May 2015.

In the past, and I expect again this time, the Corps has held the flood water to prevent as much as possible furthe downstream flooding. I know as I was involved, the 2007 Flood at Spillway + Levels was held from May to October to allow the Lower Red River and the Arkansas Ouchita River that originates aroud the Hot Springs area, to drain first, preventing the flooding of Baton Rouge, New Orleans ( and possible back flooding of all the towns NORTH of the Red/Ouchita junction like Vicksburg up to Memphis) as well as all the Texas & Louisiana towns between Lake Texoma and the Ouchita Junction east of Monroe.

This 2015 Flood makes 3 signicant Floods - 2007, 2009, & 2015 in just the last 10 years since I've lived on the Lake....with signicant Severe drought years in between.

I am more concerned about this years Flood than in the past, as I don't believe the Corps Property Line of 645' will contain the 2015 Flood and set new records of continuing damage. Lots of local homeowners & businesses , as I have, have their homes just above the 645 level.

Edited by WileyCoyote (05/24/15 09:07 AM)
"These are the times that try men's soul's"...Thomas Paine

"Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it" ....Santayana

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#5759021 - 05/25/15 03:58 PM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: fanatiquack]
nak Offline
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Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 1279
Loc: DFW
Thanks for the great explanation Wiley!
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#5759223 - 05/25/15 06:23 PM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: fanatiquack]
Greekangler Offline
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Registered: 09/05/04
Posts: 1735
Loc: North Tejas
Sold property way east off of 259 and red river. Talked to guy today. They are evacuating. Very sketchy. Another few feet and the cabin-259 bridge will be flooded

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#5759743 - 05/26/15 07:13 AM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: fanatiquack]
WileyCoyote Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 5501
Loc: The Dogwood Capital of Texas
Texoma's Water level has been rising about a foot per day over the last week.

At 6am today the level was 642.8' above sea level, or almost 3' over the spillway.

The County road in front of my house is now covered with an inch or two of water at daybreak, with 2' in elevation left before the water level hits the Corps Property Line of 645'.

The Flood of 1990 hit 644.7 or .9 - I've heard both #'s reported in the media....and some idjits on TV are wanting to see that record broken.

I'm standing guard to prevent looting of the now empty homes around me, from the "tourists" wandering thru all day yesterday wanting to see how high the water is in someones yard.

Edited by WileyCoyote (05/26/15 07:15 AM)
"These are the times that try men's soul's"...Thomas Paine

"Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it" ....Santayana

"There's a sucker born every minute" P.T. Barnum, on why he always had customers to see the sideshow features.

#5760619 - 05/26/15 05:06 PM Re: Texoma Levels [Re: nak]
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Registered: 05/03/10
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Loc: Arlington/Mullin
Originally Posted By: nak
Thanks for the great explanation Wiley!
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