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#5752265 - 05/20/15 12:17 PM X-Sight - Add on IR
SachalATN Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/14/14
Posts: 219
Loc: South San Francisco, CA
Hey guys,
I know I havent been active on the forum but do read about what you all have to say about the Xsight and your concerns. I know you guys dont see it but a lot of your feedback is ending up with the right people who are working diligently on addressing these issues.

I need you help with one more thing.

I am pushing ATN to carry an add-on IR which further improves the Xsight performance. The IR that comes standard with Xsight is a decent IR but we all know there are better alternatives available. My question to you all is, how much would you really pay for a good IR that allows you to see 200-250 yards?

I know the best answer and preference would be nothing OR why don't you fix the dimming issue, but for the sake of discussion lets just stick to the topic please.

Would you pay $400 for a super powerful IR?
Would you pay $200 for a good performing IR?


Edited by SachalATN (05/20/15 12:20 PM)
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#5752268 - 05/20/15 12:21 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
SkyPup Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 03/05/14
Posts: 309
Loc: North Central Florida
Putting a TICO thermal clip-on in front of the X-Sight would be better for night use.
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#5752275 - 05/20/15 12:30 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SkyPup]
SachalATN Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/14/14
Posts: 219
Loc: South San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted By: SkyPup
Putting a TICO thermal clip-on in front of the X-Sight would be better for night use.


I know you are here for nothing but thread crapping so please stay out. You specifically are not welcomed on this discussion.
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#5752283 - 05/20/15 12:35 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
SkyPup Offline
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Registered: 03/05/14
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Originally Posted By: SachalATN
Originally Posted By: SkyPup
Putting a TICO thermal clip-on in front of the X-Sight would be better for night use.


I know you are here for nothing but thread crapping so please stay out. You specifically are not welcomed on this discussion.


But Chip Fong told me a TICO is the best?
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#5752299 - 05/20/15 12:45 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SkyPup]
SachalATN Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/14/14
Posts: 219
Loc: South San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted By: SkyPup
Originally Posted By: SachalATN
Originally Posted By: SkyPup
Putting a TICO thermal clip-on in front of the X-Sight would be better for night use.


I know you are here for nothing but thread crapping so please stay out. You specifically are not welcomed on this discussion.


But Chip Fong told me a TICO is the best?


No it was VIC from TNVC, so and $hit somewhere else. You future post will be ignored and you have been reported to moderators.


Edited by SachalATN (05/20/15 12:45 PM)
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#5752309 - 05/20/15 12:53 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
Shadow357x2 Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 07/07/14
Posts: 227
Loc: 29137
Sachal

Im running a t-67 on two of mine and before the dimming demon got me I was getting 900 yds out of them. After the demon Im down to about 225 max on a full moon night, about 170 on a new moon. This illuminator does (advertised) 1k lumen with the ir pill in it. The focus feature is the big thing for me.
Sorry for bringing the dimming into play but it has affected the range that the scope can see at night.
The factory supplied illuminator is ok at best but at least one was sent with the units. Great for a starter.

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#5752322 - 05/20/15 01:02 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
cabosandinh Offline
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Registered: 08/12/13
Posts: 1153
Loc: Dallas, TX
$400 for a super duper IR

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#5752360 - 05/20/15 01:23 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: Shadow357x2]
SachalATN Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/14/14
Posts: 219
Loc: South San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted By: Shadow357x2
Sachal

Im running a t-67 on two of mine and before the dimming demon got me I was getting 900 yds out of them. After the demon Im down to about 225 max on a full moon night, about 170 on a new moon. This illuminator does (advertised) 1k lumen with the ir pill in it. The focus feature is the big thing for me.
Sorry for bringing the dimming into play but it has affected the range that the scope can see at night.
The factory supplied illuminator is ok at best but at least one was sent with the units. Great for a starter.



Shadow, thank you for your feedback. Is this illuminator available in the US market? I only see it listed on UK websites.
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#5752397 - 05/20/15 01:50 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
Dale Wilson Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 04/19/15
Posts: 26
I don't actually have the x-sight anymore but I hope to again. Anyway the T67 and others are available on ALiexpress for around 40 delivered I just two in. Ebay also. I personally would pay more for a laser illuminator. Great to see you here please let us know when they get the other problems worked out and I'll be on the x-sight bandwagon. I know that's not why you're here but if ATN would be a little more forthcoming with their interest in fixing the problems there would be a lot less people getting rid of them just my $0.02 thanks Dale

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#5752425 - 05/20/15 02:10 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
SachalATN Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/14/14
Posts: 219
Loc: South San Francisco, CA
Dale I appreciate your feedback. I know it is hard to see all the activity on our end but everyone here is working restlessly to fix whatever issues are left with the Xsight. If you see the amount of firmware updates we have released in the past couple of months, it should show our dedication and commitment to the product and our customer satisfaction. Should we do more outreach to our customers? Absolutely. There is always room for more.

Is all that in the works, Yes. We are definitively looking into different systems that allow us to better connect with our customers and get hands feedback from them that helps us improve our product.
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#5752427 - 05/20/15 02:11 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
HuntTXhogs Offline
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Registered: 05/04/10
Posts: 2972
Loc: North Ft Worth
I would say no more than 200.00 for the super duper powerful IR and 100.00 for a better than stock IR option.

The bottomline for me is the X-sight's total price is sub 1k so the IR shouldn't take it over 1k.

It can perform better than scopes costing twice as much and I would be happy with that banana BUT I won't spend more than 20% of the total cost of the unit on an IR because there are too many current illuminators available on the market or yet to come that will make the performance close for less $$$.

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#5752441 - 05/20/15 02:20 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
customcutter Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 05/04/15
Posts: 215
Loc: Florida
Sachal, glad you are back on the forum. Seems like you left, right as I found it. Lots of information on this forum, the most I've been able to find anyway. I don't facebook.

I have to agree. I just got into the NV game. Bought the 5-18, and sent it back for the 3-12 because the FOV was to narrow. I ordered a T-50 on Ebay for $42.00 from China. Good Panasonic re-chargables, and a good charger cost a little more. I would like to be able to see to 250yds, but doubt that I'll be shooting that far.


Edited by customcutter (05/20/15 02:27 PM)
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#5752450 - 05/20/15 02:23 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
Shadow357x2 Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 07/07/14
Posts: 227
Loc: 29137
Sachal,
I bought mine from the uk and the seller mentioned that he had a distributor here in the US but the price was double, therefore I ordered direct. I still have the contactnfo if you want it and you guys can sort it out.

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#5752796 - 05/20/15 06:35 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
SachalATN Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 08/14/14
Posts: 219
Loc: South San Francisco, CA
Shadow, do you mind sending me their contact info. There are definitely plenty of options available, I guess the biggest challenge is to find an optimal balance of price/performance/size and durability.

If you guys have any other input, please feel free to share that with me.
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#5753086 - 05/20/15 08:39 PM Re: X-Sight - Add on IR [Re: SachalATN]
Beaubien Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 02/18/15
Posts: 473
Loc: In the mountains east of ABQ
Sachal - welcome back!

I bought a UNV20IR for about 200 bucks. It gets me out to about 200-250, never measured it but I'm in the ball park.

Based on that I would pay 200, get me to 300 to 350 yards I would go $300.

Not to hijack the thread but do you guys sell refurbed thermal monoculars? If so pm or email me.


Edited by Beaubien (05/20/15 08:46 PM)
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