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6mm Creedmoor
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04/27/15 09:34 PM
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Would there be much demand for the 6mm Creedmoor in an Ar-10 (LR-308) platform? We are expanding our AR-10 line of barrels. Any reason why the round wouldn't work as well?
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DPMS Pattern 22" (Maybe) 1:8" Rifle Length Gas Medium HBAR contour
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 12:34 AM
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I might be. Who's making your barrels?
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 12:41 AM
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I might be. Who's making your barrels? We use McGowen barrels
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 01:10 AM
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I might be. Who's making your barrels? We use McGowen barrels Would be pretty cool, for sure. I would want the twist to stabilize 105's and up.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 03:43 AM
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If you could get reliable feeding with the 105 BergerHybrids then it should be a seller. My 6.5 CM does great with 123gr but I have had issues with feeding the longer 140 gr. I have read that is not uncommon so that may need exploring
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 11:01 AM
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I might be. Who's making your barrels? We use McGowen barrels Would be pretty cool, for sure. I would want the twist to stabilize 105's and up. 8 Twist should stabilize the 105gr Hybrid which is the best 6mm out there. 7mm I might be interested still but really need to get my 6mm Creedmoor bolt gun done first. Are these going to be just a limited run or a stocking item?
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 11:53 AM
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Would you please send me one to test drive? I'll give it back I promise
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 12:28 PM
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I think I'll pass so I can burn the first barrel myself.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 01:34 PM
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I think 6 Creedmoor would be a good move, and 8 twist is a good call.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 01:46 PM
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I think 6 Creedmoor would be a good move, and 8 twist is a good call. Yup. And the 105 hybrid, dee mentioned, will help gain some velocity back due to the gas gun tax.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 02:56 PM
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I know 2 guys who run a 6mm Creemoor in an AR, and both say the accuracy is decent, and they were not too excited about them in an AR.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 03:23 PM
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Are these going to be just a limited run or a stocking item? We'll see. Our 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor run sold out already and we've seen a good demand for the product. We may order just one and if it sells quick, slowly build up enough inventory to have a regular stock.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 03:25 PM
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I know 2 guys who run a 6mm Creemoor in an AR, and both say the accuracy is decent, and they were not too excited about them in an AR. So overall they thought it was mediocre?
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04/28/15 03:27 PM
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Correct. They were much more finicky than the bolt guns.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 04:36 PM
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If ammo was available on the shelf then I would have went 6CM instead of 6.5CM
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 05:00 PM
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Not only availability, but cost as well. Bulk .223 / 5.56 is still cheap even after the whole atf scare.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/28/15 05:20 PM
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Not only availability, but cost as well. Bulk .223 / 5.56 is still cheap even after the whole atf scare. Different platform all together plus completely different end goal.
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04/28/15 05:58 PM
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I am not impressed by the 6mm creedmoor in general. After this 6creed barrel wears out, I will be moving back to 6.5x47.
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04/28/15 06:34 PM
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I know multiple shooters that run a 6mm CM on a bolt gun for hunting and competition, and love it. It shoots very good. A 105 Hybrid at 3050 to 3100 fps is a fast, flat shooting and wind bucking round. If you're a 6mm fan (which I'm not), it would be a good round. I like more mass than a 105.
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04/28/15 06:56 PM
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With .223 being the same size and cheaper and 6.5CM being the same price and better, I don't see much of a market. JMHO
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04/29/15 01:14 AM
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I know two guys that own gas AR 6.5CM and the accuracy is outstanding. Both rifles were built by Andrew Brady from Lone Star Armory. Here are a couple of thousand yard groups that Tye shot from his rifle. Another 5 shot group This is a 700 yard group that was fired from Wes's rifle at 700 yards. I witnessed Jeremy Moore from Shooter's Source shoot this group. [/quote] .
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/29/15 01:39 AM
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With .223 being the same size and cheaper and 6.5CM being the same price and better, I don't see much of a market. JMHO Ummmm 223 is smaller. Bullet and case.
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04/29/15 03:08 AM
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one of the challenges is brass; gas guns are a little harder on brass and you tend to lose more. with .223 it's no big deal since it's so cheap, with a 6 creed it would be a factor that i would consider and would sway me from getting that caliber in a gas gun. but i hate gas guns and my opinion doesn't matter.
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Re: 6mm Creedmoor
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04/29/15 05:15 AM
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one of the challenges is brass; gas guns are a little harder on brass and you tend to lose more. with .223 it's no big deal since it's so cheap, with a 6 creed it would be a factor that i would consider and would sway me from getting that caliber in a gas gun. but i hate gas guns and my opinion doesn't matter. Input much appreciated, Dave!
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