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#5716878 - 04/26/15 12:08 PM Kimber rifle ?
colt45 Offline
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opinions? accuracy? customer service?
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#5716884 - 04/26/15 12:15 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
BOBO the Clown Offline
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Registered: 04/19/07
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I'd go Cooper over Kimber.

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#5716895 - 04/26/15 12:30 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
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I didn't have a good experience with the one I had. Maybe if I was a handloader I could have made it do better. Word in reading around is they can be hit or miss.
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#5716896 - 04/26/15 12:31 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
glb1955 Offline
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I didn't like the one that I had. Had great looking wood on it but it did not shoot as well as I would like for something that expensive.

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#5716923 - 04/26/15 01:12 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
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I dont see the value in them

I've shot and handled several and for whst you get I think there are better options
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#5716983 - 04/26/15 02:01 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
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Sounds a lot like their 1911s. Nice but over priced for for what you get.
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#5716985 - 04/26/15 02:03 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: Tff caribou]
BOBO the Clown Offline
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Sounds a lot like their 1911s. Nice but over priced for for what you get.


Pretty much. Cooper and Nosler make better rifles for the same coin

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#5717014 - 04/26/15 02:27 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
RifleDude Offline
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Registered: 02/24/14
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Loc: Brenham, TX
It all depends on what you're looking for. If you want a really lightweight rifle that looks good, the Kimbers are in a class by themselves. I have an 84M Classic Select in .260 and an 8400 Montana in .325 WSM. Both shoot quite well -- right at or slightly under 1 MOA. They are like any other factory rifle: some shoot well, some don't. There are no guarantees with factory rifles. Yes, the average Cooper will likely outshoot them. I have 2 Cooper M21s that are spooky accurate. On the other hand, Coopers are much heavier. I like Kimber's tiny little mini-Mauser like action. Kimber fit and finish is pretty good. The Montana version has what I believe is the highest quality synthetic stock you can get on a factory rifle.

If a Kimber doesn't shoot, most often the culprit is the mag box binding in the stock. If that's the case, simply sand the bottom of the mag box so it isn't tightly sandwiched between the bottom metal and the underside of the action, putting stress on the action. A little bedding in the front receiver ring doesn't hurt any either. Most factory rifles can benefit from a little TLC to get them to shoot at their best, so this is nothing unusual and is an easy remedy. From what I'm seeing, the current production Kimbers are better than they were a few years ago.

I think they are nice rifles for what they are. You have to let pencil profile barrels cool a bit more between shots to get the best groups at the range. In the field, you appreciate the lighter weight.
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#5717205 - 04/26/15 05:14 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
colt45 Offline
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thanks, had heard negs about the Kimbers, so now its between cooper (my 21 is great shooter) and nosler patriot
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#5717278 - 04/26/15 06:19 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
RifleDude Offline
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Registered: 02/24/14
Posts: 162
Loc: Brenham, TX
Keep in mind that a lot of the negative you hear is from people who don't own one. I have 2 of them and haven't experienced the negatives folks talk about, nor has 2 of my friends who own one.

From my experience, the Coopers will definitely shoot better on average, but they will also shoot better than most other factory rifles too. They're nowhere near as lightweight, if that's an important factor for you. The Kimbers are the lightest factory rifles made. Both have great triggers. The Nosler rifle is nice, but it's also more expensive, and about a pound heavier than the Kimber in the same chambering. Weight may not be important to you, but is worth mentioning.

A lot depends on which chambering you want, whether you reload or shoot factory ammo only, and which bullets you plan to shoot in that chambering. Both Kimber and Nosler used too slow a twist rate on some chamberings.

I love Coopers, but I'm not so enamored by their big game rifles as I am their rimfires and varmint rifles.
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#5718111 - 04/27/15 10:09 AM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
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I have just read too many negative reports to take a gamble on one over the years.


Cooper will make a light gun if you ask.
Mike Hudgins built me a light 25-06 a few years ago.

I love the Nosler rifles.
I have a Trophy Grade 280AI.
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#5718180 - 04/27/15 10:47 AM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
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Do you consider coopers nosler and kimber factory rifles?

When I hear factory I think Winchester, Remington, ruger, savage etc.

To me cooper kimber nosler etc. go in a different category.
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#5718231 - 04/27/15 11:23 AM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
spg Offline
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I don't have a Cooper or Kimber but have all the rest. The most accurate I have out the box without using my handloads is a browning A-bolt. I prefer rem 700's Tikka's.

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#5718278 - 04/27/15 11:58 AM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: colt45]
charlesb Offline
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The most accurate rifle I've owned with factory loads was a Browning A-bolt stainless stalker in .300 Winchester magnum.

With Federal premium 180 gran loads, the first three shots out of a cold, clean barrel went into 1/2 inch, each and every time.
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#5718350 - 04/27/15 12:57 PM Re: Kimber rifle ? [Re: redchevy]
RifleDude Offline
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Registered: 02/24/14
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Loc: Brenham, TX
Originally Posted By: redchevy
Do you consider coopers nosler and kimber factory rifles?



Kimber is most definitely a factory rifle. I would call Cooper and Nosler "semi-custom."

The former is a factory rifle in every sense of the word, in that it has limited to no options available, and is made in high volume on a production line with little hand work.
Cooper and Nosler are semi-customs because they are made in lower volume with some hand fitting and a choice of options, but isn't a full custom in that you don't get to select each component of the build and don't really get to select a unique stock design. You have limited choices on what you can get.

Cooper does do some custom work, but you are still limited by their actions and their barrels.
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