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#5714980 - 04/24/15 02:31 PM .243 or 7mm.08 ?
Stegar Offline

Registered: 10/28/14
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Loc: Garland,TX
How much more recoil does a 7mm.08 have over a .243? This would be in a youth rifle for my 9 yr girl. Any help would be great!!
Yat Yas

#5714996 - 04/24/15 02:37 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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.243 will take anything in TX. If you already own one, I would use it.

My daughter is 9 also and we started with a 223 and now she is using a 243. I didn't have a 243 but ended up buying one.

I don't have a 7.08, but I would assume the recoil is not much more than a 243

#5715000 - 04/24/15 02:42 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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Buy the 7-08 and get the reduced-recoil loads for it until she grows into it.

#5715005 - 04/24/15 02:49 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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It is my opinion that the recoil is much more noticeable in the 708 than a 243.

#5715163 - 04/24/15 04:34 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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There will be a noticeable difference, especially on a youth rifle. The managed recoil rounds are a good idea. I would spring for a quality recoil pad for either. It will help.

#5715185 - 04/24/15 04:53 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: TxHunter80]
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Originally Posted By: Pwdr1
The managed recoil rounds are a good idea. I would spring for a quality recoil pad for either. It will help.


#5715223 - 04/24/15 05:16 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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I was working up loads for a .243 and 7-08 yesterday. Alternating the two. The 243 shooting 85gr sierras had less recoil than the 7-08 with 120gr noslers. Both with max and above loads. The 08 wasn't bad but the 243 recoil wasn't noticeable at all.
The 243 was a buddies sons. It's a short kids mossberg ATR that probably weighes less than 5lbs.
For a small girl I'd go with the .243 and the 80-85gr loads. They'll kill anything she wants to shoot at.

I wouldn't recomend the mossberg of they are all like this one. It's a good feeling little gun but has an Extremely short throat and jammed factory ammo into the lands.

#5715244 - 04/24/15 05:27 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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7-08 will recoil a bit more, but not a huge margin.

If you handload you can make a 243 thump hard, and you could make a 7-08 a [censored] cat, and vice versa. If you're stuck with off the shelf ammo, the 243 is the way, if you're concerned with recoil.

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#5715251 - 04/24/15 05:37 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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My wife is a tiny thing and she shoots a Savage youth 7mm-08 with the Hornady Lite loads. Very little noticeable recoil.

#5715253 - 04/24/15 05:40 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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You could look into an intermediate cartridge like 6.8 spc of 300 blackout in a bolt gun.

That being said, my dad's 243 win 70 featherweight is beautiful.

#5715260 - 04/24/15 05:48 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Chris42]
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The 243, with hunting bullets (read deer bullets, not varmint bullets) is all you need.

Spend the $$ you save on ammo and have her practice with a rifle that is fun for her to shoot.

#5715261 - 04/24/15 05:50 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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Go look at a TC Venture Carbine 20" barrel with the Youth stock and a 1" insert to bring it back to normal LOP's. Gottem in 223/243/7-08 & 308. You can get 'em at Ruger American prices too, 'specially with the $75 Rebate on 'em now. One thing I just learned on the Venture I just bought that is not in the literature...the Safety ON position locks the trigger but allows you open the bolt to unload the chamber SAFELY...and by using the EMPTY drop box magazine you can restrict how many rounds are in the gun at one time & top load single rounds.

I like the idea of reduced 7-08 loads for early years usage and then step up to standard level rounds in the future - or get Chad to do some soft loads tuned to the gun - to get better bullets and a better long term rifle than buying a "Kleenex" gun to use a couple years and throw/give away later.
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#5715309 - 04/24/15 06:34 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
Stegar Offline

Registered: 10/28/14
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Loc: Garland,TX
Thanks for the input y'all. JJH I was thinking the same thing. I went to Academy and got her a CVA .243 it was only $179 I will give a range report this weekend. Thanks again for the input!!
Yat Yas

#5715468 - 04/24/15 08:36 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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.243 was the right choice. Started mine at the same age with a .243, at age 14 we moved her up to a 7mm-08. By then her 'length of pull' was just right for a full sized rifle with a 1" Pachmayer decelerator recoil pad. She is 28 yrs, old now...and still loves that rifle.
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#5715476 - 04/24/15 08:45 PM Re: .243 or 7mm.08 ? [Re: Stegar]
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