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#5712059 - 04/22/15 04:54 PM Need a little help
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Has anyone ever offered, hunted, or heard of going prices for a large rare black whitetail buck, also known as a melanistic deer! This one is not only a rare black whitetail but he is also a stud of a buck. I have game cam pics but I am mostly wondering what a deer like this would go for if sold for a hunt. There are several on the ranch but this one is the biggest. I know people may be saying oh don't shoot it but he is probably getting to his prime and the disappearing stage of his life so I think this season is the season to take him down. As I mentioned there are others coming up behind him. Please let me know what I'm looking at here thanks.
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#5712075 - 04/22/15 05:00 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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Here is the deer I am talking about!!!!! I would say to find one this awesome would be extremely hard to do.

more info on the deer
http://www.buckmanager.com/2008/07/21/more-black-deer-spotted-in-texas/
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#5712322 - 04/22/15 07:51 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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I'm not an expert, but like anything else, it's not the rarity, but how much people will pay for the rarity. It's possible that there's someone out there that would pay a lot, but my gut feel is that 10% to 15% is about the limit for the novelty factor.
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#5712338 - 04/22/15 08:02 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: nsmike]
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Gotta love the free market.

It's all about finding the right buyer. You could get a lot of money if you drag that bait in front of the right fish.

Personally I'd pay at least twice the going rate for a buck like that. The only thing going against you is the fact they are so rare, most folks don't even know they exist.

All you need to do to get a premium, is shop it around. Good luck!
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#5712339 - 04/22/15 08:05 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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Id like to hunt it if the price is right

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#5712419 - 04/22/15 08:57 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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There are quite a few of them down near San Marcus. A few ranches have a good number of them. About double going rate is probably about tops I would think. 2500-3000 neighborhood. Just have to find the right person. I would not even attempt to book a hunt though until next season.
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#5712446 - 04/22/15 09:09 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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This buck is 20miles east of San Marcos I know there are several but I've never seen one this big.
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#5712451 - 04/22/15 09:12 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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Quick search on Google found several that big and bigger. Main frame 8, 9 and 10 points.
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#5712509 - 04/22/15 09:50 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: therancher]
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Originally Posted By: therancher
Gotta love the free market.

It's all about finding the right buyer. You could get a lot of money if you drag that bait in front of the right fish.

Personally I'd pay at least twice the going rate for a buck like that. The only thing going against you is the fact they are so rare, most folks don't even know they exist.

All you need to do to get a premium, is shop it around. Good luck!


I agree wholeheartedly....

I would love to shoot a melanistic whitetail buck, and would pay 50-100% more than the market value for a normal colored buck that size.
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#5712533 - 04/22/15 10:14 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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I have a friend in San Marcos that shot one. There must be a bunch of them in that area.
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#5712913 - 04/23/15 09:19 AM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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There's a fool born everyday. Personally, I wouldn't give a dime more than going rate for any whitetail if that much.

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#5713064 - 04/23/15 10:57 AM Re: Need a little help [Re: 2010bigdog]
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Originally Posted By: 2010bigdog
There's a fool born everyday. Personally, I wouldn't give a dime more than going rate for any whitetail if that much.


Come on, I said I would shoot it for $100, but not a dime more. up

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#5713253 - 04/23/15 12:55 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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Nothing at all rare about black / dark whitetails in that area & in a band NE of San Marcos.

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#5713622 - 04/23/15 04:56 PM Re: Need a little help [Re: dgilbert]
therancher Offline
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Originally Posted By: dgilbert
Originally Posted By: 2010bigdog
There's a fool born everyday. Personally, I wouldn't give a dime more than going rate for any whitetail if that much.


Come on, I said I would shoot it for $100, but not a dime more. up


Well then. My guess is you won't ever shoot one.

Most people in Texas know there's an area with an abnormally high ratio of melanism in and around hays county.

However, melanism is in fact, the rarest of color variations in WT deer (rarer than albino and piebald).So much so that people outside Texas many times don't even know they exist.

So, am I a fool for placing a premium on rarity? Maybe, but I'm one happy fool.

Also, a moderator thumbs upping that type of name calling. You sure send some mixed messages mr Gilbert. up
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#5714423 - 04/24/15 07:47 AM Re: Need a little help [Re: KeithTT]
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People pay to hunt what they like and want. While it might be a big slick 8, a big 6 , a freaky 300 class buck. We all have our thing. Me included. There are plenty of folks that will pay to hunt a less than common variation of an species. Yes -charge a fair premium and you will have no trouble getting a line of people to hunt. Good luck with it and post some more pics.

And yes I agree with therancher comments as well, we can all be happy fools.
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