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#5708391 - 04/20/15 08:55 AM Recommendation for glass bedder
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Someone in the North Houston - Conroe - Magnolia area who can glass bed a rifle stock without f'ing it up.
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#5708772 - 04/20/15 01:48 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Do it your self their are some good video on utube.

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#5709263 - 04/20/15 08:16 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Do I pillar bed or just bed the lug?
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#5709501 - 04/20/15 10:47 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
Do I pillar bed or just bed the lug?


Whatever you want. Some rifles it really helps if you just bed the lug and that is super easy. If your barrel is not free floated then I would say do the pillars too.

IMO pillar and lug bedding is all you need but I am not a gun smith by any means. If you want to bed the entire action go for it!
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#5709604 - 04/21/15 06:40 AM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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What kinda gun?
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#5709626 - 04/21/15 06:59 AM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Savage 116 with Bell & Carlson synthetic stock.
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#5709643 - 04/21/15 07:21 AM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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No savage experience. If available, I would pillar bed it first. That is easy and quick and usually stabilizes the gun just fine.
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#5709838 - 04/21/15 09:41 AM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
Savage 116 with Bell & Carlson synthetic stock.


The B&C stock should already have pillars. Is the barrel free floating? How does the rifle group now?

If you want to bed around the pillars and the recoil lug that is pretty easy. Just make sure you leave some space for the back tang to float. Savage rifles are built to have some space between the back tang and the stock.
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#5709972 - 04/21/15 10:50 AM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Yeah, this is one reason why I don't want to try this myself. At this point I'm not even sure what pillar bedding is and how it relates to bedding the recoil lug. This rifle will sometimes shoot sub 1" groups with the right ammunition, but it doesn't seem to keep the point of aim after I've removed the stock. It seems to have to settle in. Would bedding prevent that? Yes, the B&C stock has pillars. I thought pillar bedding meant putting bedding compound around the pillars. Yes, it is free floating.
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#5710538 - 04/21/15 05:36 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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It could be a torque problem. Are you using a torque wrench when screwing in the action screws? I use the fat wrench to make sure I have the same amount of torque on each screw.

Pillar bedding is installing metal pillars and bedding them. Bedding the action would involve bedding around the top of the pillars. From what I have seen, savages just need the recoil lug done if anything but that's only on the cheap plastic stock models.

The B&C should be good if the torque is right, if not you could bed the recoil lug first to see if it helps.
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#5710638 - 04/21/15 06:57 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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Yes, I am tightening to 40 inch-pounds. Bell & Carlson's recommendation is 30-40 inch pounds. I don't know what Savage's recommendation is, or if it still applies with the B&C stock.

Thanks for the info.
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#5711297 - 04/22/15 09:15 AM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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A problem you need to check for is this.

Try to move the barrel back an forth while holding the stock securely.

If it moves bed the lug. Make sure the tang is solid.

I hope the retorqeing will solve your problems.

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#5711883 - 04/22/15 02:58 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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What do you mean by "make sure the tang is solid"? I'm just curious because it's a moot point as I'm dropping it off tomorrow for a full-action bed.
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#5711913 - 04/22/15 03:10 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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#5712045 - 04/22/15 04:40 PM Re: Recommendation for glass bedder [Re: postoak]
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My limited knowledge...

Pillar bedding is achieved by installing metal pillars into the stock so when you torque/tighten down the screws holding the action into the stock the screw heads and bottom of the action don't squish/suck into the softer wood stock.

Glass bedding is don't to ensure that the action and stock have and "exact" fit so it goes back the same if you take it out.

Savages have a floating tang and from my research and understanding and are designed to stay that way.

I have a wood stocked savage short action I will be pillar and then glass bedding this summer.
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