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11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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A client of mine has a son who is an Avery Outdoors pro staff member and an avid, avid hunter. Greyson is 11 years old and has been on more hunting trips than most grown men I know, and he shoots better than 90% of them as well. Check out this Facebook story from his dad: "The Adventures continue! We have been on quite a few trips since our last post. Here is Grey with his personal best elk. Grey harvested this great herd bull in the mountains of New Mexico this past Oct with a muzzleloader on the last morning of a very hard and physical hunt. The bull green scored a 342! What is more amazing is that Grey took this bull with one shot at 425 yards with a muzzleloader. New Mexico as well as a handful of other states allows the use of very modern muzzleloaders that are capable of accurately being effective at very long range distances. Grey was using a Gun Werks custom muzzleloader - an amazing piece of equipment, but it's only as good as the shooter behind it. Congrats Grey! Mom and I are very proud of you not only for your shooting skills but more importantly for your determination and never quit attitude." Greyson West Adventures
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Im jealous. Congrats. They make some hi tech smoke poles these days.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Muzzeloaders have come a long ways! Great hunt! And great bull!
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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I hate that kid. Only way for me to like him is for he and his dad to take me elk hunting.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Well I'm not a math guy, but referred this shooting feat to my resident Math Wizard. Here's his take on it. "How much elevation did he use, at 2500 mv= 1/2 sec= 8' drop. Luck or Texas BS." Wonder what the "Energy in Ft Pounds" that round had when it brung down that Elk? For a 30-06 180 grain slug it would have been less than 1,354 on arrival at the critter.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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I hate that kid. Only way for me to like him is for he and his dad to take me elk hunting. x2................
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Thanks for the web link. So the 11 yr old was using a Johnson Muzzleloader with 300 grain Whitetail bullet? I've always read about bullets needing to arrive with 1,600 lb of energy to consistently down big game. The 300 Grain arrives at 400 yds with 920 ft lb. according to their figures. Whatever, their web site has some fine testimonials.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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04/17/15 11:36 PM
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Thanks for the web link. So the 11 yr old was using a Johnson Muzzleloader with 300 grain Whitetail bullet? I've always read about bullets needing to arrive with 1,600 lb of energy to consistently down big game. The 300 Grain arrives at 400 yds with 920 ft lb. according to their figures. Whatever, their web site has some fine testimonials. Not sure what he was using, but knew that company would have the ballistics on their ML. That was the quickest one I could find.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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04/18/15 07:57 PM
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Thanks for the web link. So the 11 yr old was using a Johnson Muzzleloader with 300 grain Whitetail bullet? I've always read about bullets needing to arrive with 1,600 lb of energy to consistently down big game. The 300 Grain arrives at 400 yds with 920 ft lb. according to their figures. Whatever, their web site has some fine testimonials. He was using a custom Gunwerks muzzleloader: http://www.gunwerks.com/Shooting-Systems/muzzleLoaderThis isn't any 11 year old. He's the youngest Avery Outdoors pro staff member ever and has been hunting since he could walk. He'll be on television soon. Check out his Facebook page to see more of the trophies he's taken.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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When I read muzzle loader at 400+ yards I was thinking a smooth bore cannon.
I see he was usung a custom spancy one, still Hard to believe.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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04/19/15 02:54 AM
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Well I'm not a math guy, but referred this shooting feat to my resident Math Wizard. Here's his take on it. "How much elevation did he use, at 2500 mv= 1/2 sec= 8' drop. Luck or Texas BS." Wonder what the "Energy in Ft Pounds" that round had when it brung down that Elk? For a 30-06 180 grain slug it would have been less than 1,354 on arrival at the critter. Your looking up wrong spec, they are using a sub .50 saboted bullet with a b.c of .400 and 300 gr plus elevation above 6k. http://parker-productions-llc.myshopify....llistic-extremeNote that that gun and bullet combination is illegal in some states for ML season...such as CO because it's scoped, smokeless powder and sabot
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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I'm still trying to get the elk to 342". Awesome job regardless of the score with a muzzleloader.
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Re: 11-year-old takes 342" bull elk from 425 yds with muzzleloader
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MuzzleLoader Features
Our Muzzleloader is based on our LRM-500 action. This action features a built in 209 primer holder on the bolt , a removable breechplug and twin rear locking lugs. The barrel features precise dimensions of bore and groove with minimal deviation in diameter from breach to muzzle. The heavy 45 caliber bullet is stabilized in a unique MMP sabot with a fast twist barrel. We offer loads in smokeless powder or black powder substitute that attain 2200 fps muzzle velocity. Combined with a 0.400 G1 BC, a 2200 fps muzzle velocity retains adequate impact velocity for lethality at 500 yards, and deflects only one MOA per 100 yards for a 10 mph wind. That’s only 5 MOA at 500 yards!
In the design and specification process, our focus was on creating a muzzle loader that was easy to load, comfortable to shoot, sub-MOA accurate to 500 yards, and low maintenance. Many of the high performance muzzle loaders on the market suffer from the same maladies, heavy recoil, and difficult and complicated loading and cleaning routines. Mike tested the system with 15 shots fired in under 10 minutes with no cleaning, swabbing, or cooling between shots. The group at 100 yards was less than 1.5 MOA!
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