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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 05:41 PM
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At some point, society decided which animals would be food, which would be companions and which were predators/nuisance/pests. In most parts of the world, dogs are companions, help us hunt, protect us, etc. Deer are a food source for many people but don't make great or practical companions.
Coyotes and wolves obviously resemble domesticated dogs, but they are predators and kill other animals that we have decided are companions or food sources, so we kill them or try to limit their access to us and livestock.
Other animals that we don't hunt, but raise for food, like cows, we protect from the predators but end up killing for sustenance. I don't do this personally, but I understand some people really grapple with the emotions of raising livestock to then slaughter it for food in a few years, because a bond is formed with the animal. Many hunters feel the same way with the deer (ducks, in my case) and are thankful for the chance to harvest field animals for their family.
The initial question is bad, but they may have just phrased it in a weird way. It appears they are trying to ask what many non-hunters ask of us. The second question, though, is very bad as a response to your first answer. I hope this doesn't come across as offensive, but it sounds like a follow up question a five year old would ask because they haven't yet grasped the difference between animals we hunt and why and animals we live with or don't hunt.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Hunting concern
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04/06/15 05:41 PM
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Id laugh at first then ask him why does he grow a garden full of vegies to eat and not flowers Careful Nav, I'm feeling stabby today...
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Re: Hunting concern
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04/06/15 05:42 PM
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Id laugh at first then ask him why does he grow a garden full of vegies to eat and not flowers Careful Nav, I'm feeling stabby today... I seen your new Garden Addition... Dont get to "stabby"
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 05:43 PM
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Dog can be table fare. Lewis & Clark even ate dog.
To be determined
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 05:49 PM
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Turkey... Whats wrong with you Janies gonna YELL at YOU
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 05:54 PM
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Dang, I wasn't ready for it either, Turkey.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 05:56 PM
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The guy is a coworker of mine. I wouldn't ever scold someone for asking a good challenging question. I didn't have a good answer for it. That's why I posted it. Thanks.
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: SniperRAB]
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04/06/15 06:48 PM
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Id laugh at first then ask him why does he grow a garden full of vegies to eat and not flowers Careful Nav, I'm feeling stabby today... I seen your new Garden Addition... Dont get to "stabby" I ment cuz veggies are food not flowers... like deer is food and not dogs.. even though it don't taste bad..
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 06:52 PM
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I have a co-worker that (out of the blue) started ragging me about hunting over a feeder. We don't talk much these days.
Cast I have a short attention spa
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 07:02 PM
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I would tell them it is none of their concern. I hunt. They can accept that or not, but it is not a topic that needs to be debated or philosophized.
People will either enjoy hunting or not, that is up to them. If they are vegan, they will not ever understand. If they eat a single burger, then they can just stay quite and be a nice silent hypocrite.
Don't have to be mean about that reply, btw.. but many ask that question. I tell them, "I leave a pistol on the ground. The deer is welcome to pick it up and shoot back.."
and leave it at that.
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Hunting is easy..it's getting permission from your wife that is tough.
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 10:30 PM
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Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it. Don't text and drive.
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Re: Hunting concern
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04/06/15 11:01 PM
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A Spanish philosopher once explained hunting as follows: When I hunt I do not hunt to kill but I do kill to hunt. I think this explains the inherent genetic make up of those of us who hunt as we are acting upon millions of years of pursuing game for survival. Those not comfortable with it have obviously lost touch with their roots. One never knows these genetic qualities may become essential for survival for our prodigy.
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Re: Hunting concern
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04/06/15 11:11 PM
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Same way adressed whin credit advise said leasing a bad ivestment got up an walked away. Cant aford ta hunt these days.
i'm postaddic
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Re: Hunting concern
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04/06/15 11:20 PM
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Hey guys and gals, I recently had a friend ask me "how is it that you can cry when your dog dies but cheer when you shoot a deer?" I said, "well, I shoot the deer because I intend on eating it and I enjoy the chase" He replied "why don't you shoot the dog instead?" I said, "I'm not Chinese"
But for real? How would you address this topic?
Thanks, CM
I would tell them because I don't eat dogs and I don't eat my friends. My dog is my friend. Pretty simple.
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Re: Hunting concern
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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04/06/15 11:21 PM
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Your friend sounds sanctimonious. Dump him.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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