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#5675377 - 03/29/15 10:10 PM SWFA vs Vortex
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I am not sure if this has been brought up or not but I am thinking about buyng one of these two scopes and would like to know yalls opinions.

I am looking at the
Vortex Viper PST FFP 6-24
And the SWFA 5-20 HD

Does anyone now the glass difference between the two?
Also who makes the SWFA?
It will be for Long range target shooting but plan on hunting wit it as well.

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#5675411 - 03/29/15 10:33 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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Ive got the vortex viper pst 6x24FFP EBR1 MRAD and love it. New they're 949$ plus tax but they're listed here on the forum off and on between 700-800$. Its super clear day and night. For under 1000$ its hard to beat.
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#5675460 - 03/29/15 11:39 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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SWFA hands down. Glass isn't even close.
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#5675532 - 03/30/15 06:55 AM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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I have both. The SS has much better glass and ten mils per rev.
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#5675754 - 03/30/15 09:25 AM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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Swfa is hands down better glass than the pst. Euro optic had gen 1 razor marked down to the 1300 range which is right there with the swfa. You also have the xtr ii by burris in the same price range as well as one or two bushnell elite models.


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#5679953 - 04/01/15 03:42 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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I have several Vortex, and a couple of SWFA's, plus I have shot a whole bunch more of the Vortex Vipers including the PST. I think the clarity of the SWFA is better. I have a 3-15x42 SS and it beats my bosses new Viper hands down, across the board in all categories. I would by the SS over the PST any day.

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#5680165 - 04/01/15 06:22 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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I've had an SWFA 3-9x42 for right on a year now. The only complaint I could make was opting for the SS 3-9x42 instead of the 3-15. Really, it has exceeded my expectations for the price point. If you go for this range of scope, spend the extra $100 and get the 3-15.

OTOH, I have a Vortex hunting scope on order and hope to take delivery at the end of next week. It has a simple duplex reticle and is 4-16x50.

I will compare the two, but it'll be a bit apples to oranges. The SWFA is FFP Mil/Mil and the Vortex is MOA Duplex. SWFA exposed tacticle turrets and the Vortex turrets are capped. Really, two different scopes for different applications. I will be able to compare glass, tracking, light gathering, and quality though.

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#5681750 - 04/02/15 06:03 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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Swfa is so freaking clear and crisp. I have a pst on 300 win mag and swfa 5.20 hd on my 338 and you can tell a big difference. Pretty soon my win mag will wear a swfa.

12x swfa on my 6.5
3x15 swfa on my ar
5x20 on my 338

Soon all my rifles will have the swfa
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#5682157 - 04/02/15 09:36 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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I have the Vortex PST 6-24x50, SWFA 3-9x42 HD and the SWFA 3-15x42. I used both the SWFA scopes side by side this weekend with the following observations:

- Vortex PST 6-24 is very good glass with great mechanicals. As stated previously, it is a very good sub $1K scope. I like it and it will likely be moved from a 6.5 Creedmoor target rifle to a 22-250.

- SWFA 3-15 is good glass with great mechanicals. The price and magnification range are very good. I have 2 of these scopes and they reside on AR10s in 260 and 308. I like the turrets on the Vortex PST a bit better.

- SWFA 3-9 is great glass with great mechanicals. I really like this scope and the clarity of the image is better than the Vortex PST and much better than the SWFA 3-15. I currently have this on another AR10 in 308. I still like the turrets on the Vortex PST a bit better.

Note, all the above input is from a knuckle-dragger with limited experience with target/tactical type scopes. Take it for what it's worth.

I also have a Bushnell Elite Tactical 3.5-21x50 but waiting for a new rifle to give it a try. I am very optimistic about this scope and like the glass and mechanicals but need to put it through its paces to really rate it. Stay tuned...
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#5682589 - 04/03/15 09:35 AM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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Just an FYI, on the website it doesn't say if the item is backordered or not.

I placed an order for an SWFA SS 10x42 and an American Defense mount, order went through and I received an email a few hours later saying the scope was on backorder. So you might want to call first just to make sure they have the model you're looking for if you don't want to wait.
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#5682926 - 04/03/15 01:10 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: Big Fitz]
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[quote=Big I like the turrets on the Vortex PST a bit better.



I must say I agree with that!
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#5688708 - 04/07/15 02:16 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: daniel1381]
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As has been said already, the SWFA SS, no question. SWFA doesn't reveal who builds the SS scopes for them, but it is a very prominent, very well respected optics manufacturer in Japan.

If you were comparing it to the Vortex Razor Gen2, it would be a very close comparison, but not to the PST.
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#5689073 - 04/07/15 06:47 PM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: RifleDude]
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Originally Posted By: RifleDude

If you were comparing it to the Vortex Razor Gen2, it would be a very close comparison


Sarcasm doesn't translate well over forums. Surely you were joking?

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#5689665 - 04/08/15 06:31 AM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5x47Lapua
Originally Posted By: RifleDude

If you were comparing it to the Vortex Razor Gen2, it would be a very close comparison


Sarcasm doesn't translate well over forums. Surely you were joking?


No kidding. I glanced and thought it said gen 1 which is comparable but the gen 2 is in a different league.
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#5689684 - 04/08/15 06:49 AM Re: SWFA vs Vortex [Re: slayer12]
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Isn't there a real difference in price? Especially, for law enforcement guys who can get the top vortex for $649 or so(with the new reticle) vs $1300.00+ on the other. You could almost get 2 of the vortex. Or you could say add the difference to the vortex price, which takes you to mark 4 Leopold prices or other scopes, which to many would be better scopes.

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