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#5673429 - 03/28/15 10:03 AM new can equals better accuracy?
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Ok so my specwar 7.62 can finally came in.went out to the range yesterday and i dont know if it was a fluke but shot my best group at 900 yards to date previously it was 3inch 3shot group without the can.with the can i shot a 3 shot group that measured 1 inch.wind conditions matched previous group. would have taken pic but almost got stuck in the mud when i went out and painted the target. is this common for a can to tighten up groups also i was using my rem 700 308 20in barrel 178amax
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#5673458 - 03/28/15 10:30 AM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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#5673499 - 03/28/15 11:01 AM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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It acts like a barrel weight and dampens the barrel harmonics

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#5673529 - 03/28/15 11:45 AM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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Bcj that makes sense did not think about that
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#5673548 - 03/28/15 12:12 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: BCJ]
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Originally Posted By: BCJ
It acts like a barrel weight and dampens the barrel harmonics


I prefer change to dampen, ^^^

BUT occassionally it sometimes will have the opposite effect although rare in my experience
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#5673864 - 03/28/15 06:49 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: BCJ]
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Originally Posted By: BCJ
It acts like a barrel weight and changes
harmonics


FIFY

Especially running mass produced ammo, it can make an improvement on a load that shot OK before. It can also make it start shooting very badly

When the suppressor changes harmonics it can make a rifle that shot well, shoot bad. My 7 Rem Mag was load developed with a brake. Put the suppressor on and it will negatively affect consistency as well as shift point of impact by a wide margin. Barrel contour and suppressor weight are major factors in both POI shift as well as change in barrel/ load consistency no-suppressor to with-suppressor.
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#5673871 - 03/28/15 06:57 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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Wow. Isn't the IBS record 1000 yard group something like 1.4 or 1.5 inches?
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#5673885 - 03/28/15 07:12 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Wow. Isn't the IBS record 1000 yard group something like 1.4 or 1.5 inches?


Heck, NP there's whole hundred yards between 900 and 1k!

And that record was prolly a five shot group, huge difference!
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#5673901 - 03/28/15 07:24 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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#5674107 - 03/28/15 10:01 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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How do you join ibs lol probally will not be able to repeat it again but who knows it felt good thought the can had a little magic in it or something.will go back in a couple of days and try it again and maybe ill change the title to new can equals poor accuracy who knows.maybe im the best in world and i dont even know it.
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#5674151 - 03/28/15 10:41 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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The suppressor can make groups worse or better. The can changes the barrel harmonics, and can improve or not improve the groups based on where the load is at in the accuracy node.

1" group at 900 yards. With a 20" 308. 178 A-max. Factory Rem 700. I'm not calling BS, but if that's the case, you need to sign that rifle and ammo up into qualifying for some shooting records. I'll put it to you this way. I will let you double your group size (to 2"), and I will pay you $500 if you can shoot a 2", 3 shot group at 900 yards in my presence with said rifle and ammo. And yes, I'm serious. If you take the challenge and don't make it, you owe me $100. 5:1 odds! I'll even double it for $1000 to $200, if you want.
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#5674154 - 03/28/15 10:46 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
The suppressor can make groups worse or better. The can changes the barrel harmonics, and can improve or not improve the groups based on where the load is at in the accuracy node.

1" group at 900 yards. With a 20" 308. 178 A-max. Factory Rem 700. I'm not calling BS, but if that's the case, you need to sign that rifle and ammo up into qualifying for some shooting records. I'll put it to you this way. I will let you double your group size (to 2"), and I will pay you $500 if you can shoot a 2", 3 shot group at 900 yards in my presence with said rifle and ammo. And yes, I'm serious. If you take the challenge and don't make it, you owe me $100. 5:1 odds! I'll even double it for $1000 to $200, if you want.


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#5674162 - 03/28/15 10:54 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
The suppressor can make groups worse or better. The can changes the barrel harmonics, and can improve or not improve the groups based on where the load is at in the accuracy node.

1" group at 900 yards. With a 20" 308. 178 A-max. Factory Rem 700. I'm not calling BS, but if that's the case, you need to sign that rifle and ammo up into qualifying for some shooting records. I'll put it to you this way. I will let you double your group size (to 2"), and I will pay you $500 if you can shoot a 2", 3 shot group at 900 yards in my presence with said rifle and ammo. And yes, I'm serious. If you take the challenge and don't make it, you owe me $100. 5:1 odds! I'll even double it for $1000 to $200, if you want.


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#5674166 - 03/28/15 10:57 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: sneakyfletch]
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No such thing as too muddy. We hiked miles and miles through the stickiest and stankiest black mud man could find, carrying more gear ammo and a gun so heavy the snipers would be laughing at us, all so we could prove to 30 other men that we can't shoot under pressure. #THFhunterschallenge

If I had shot a 1" group @ 900 yards you bet your a$$ I would have swam across the ocean to take a pic of that group


Edited by BigPig (03/28/15 10:58 PM)
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#5674172 - 03/28/15 11:03 PM Re: new can equals better accuracy? [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
No such thing as too muddy. We hiked miles and miles through the stickiest and stankiest black mud man could find, carrying more gear ammo and a gun so heavy the snipers would be laughing at us, all so we could prove to 30 other men that we can't shoot under pressure. #THFhunterschallenge

If I had shot a 1" group @ 900 yards you bet your a$$ I would have swam across the ocean to take a pic of that group


Lol yep I remember this well..
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