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US F&WS did something right #5670784 03/26/15 09:04 PM
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Get ready for the howls and threats again:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/20150326-...port-permit.ece

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it took long enough to get this approved. good luck to the hunter!

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...it may be the only way to keep the $#@! *&^%ed Asians from killing them all for the Viagra they think is in the horns...Dumb *&^%$'s
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Re: US F&WS did something right [Re: Hunt Dog] #5671801 03/27/15 12:27 PM
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The antis are straight up idiots. Sport hunting has and will forever be the greatest and only effective conservation tool for African animals. This has been proven over and over and over again. Kenya is the prime example. Hunting closed-animals decimated. There are many other examples.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Yup^^

They need to go to Africa and see for themselves how this works. Then they can make an educated decision.

NP,

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good deal, hope all the BS from last year doesn't start up again from the Anti's


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Re: US F&WS did something right [Re: J.G.] #5676857 03/31/15 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Yup^^

They need to go to Africa and see for themselves how this works. Then they can make an educated decision.

NP,

Your new sig line is hilarious!!!!! Wonder how long it will be before he gives you an even better, and more outrageous one?


Lol. Couldn't pass it up.

We gotta get the message out that hunters are the first and best conservationists. Billions and billions from taxes like Pittman-Robertson, license fees, etc. Teddy Roosevelt was the greatest conservationist who has ever lived-and an avid hunter.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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The anti hunting community doesn't care what's best for the species.


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Re: US F&WS did something right [Re: Nogalus Prairie] #5677240 03/31/15 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Yup^^

They need to go to Africa and see for themselves how this works. Then they can make an educated decision.

NP,

Your new sig line is hilarious!!!!! Wonder how long it will be before he gives you an even better, and more outrageous one?


Lol. Couldn't pass it up.

We gotta get the message out that hunters are the first and best conservationists. Billions and billions from taxes like Pittman-Robertson, license fees, etc. Teddy Roosevelt was the greatest conservationist who has ever lived-and an avid hunter.


So, two of the biggest anti HF antagonists on here are touting conservation... That is 90+% accomplished because of high fences. Even African high fences didn't protect oryx, addax, and damas.

I applaud y'all! But at least acknowledge the fact that without HF's this conservation effort would have failed.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Yup^^

They need to go to Africa and see for themselves how this works. Then they can make an educated decision.

NP,

Your new sig line is hilarious!!!!! Wonder how long it will be before he gives you an even better, and more outrageous one?


Lol. Couldn't pass it up.

We gotta get the message out that hunters are the first and best conservationists. Billions and billions from taxes like Pittman-Robertson, license fees, etc. Teddy Roosevelt was the greatest conservationist who has ever lived-and an avid hunter.


So, two of the biggest anti HF antagonists on here are touting conservation... That is 90+% accomplished because of high fences. Even African high fences didn't protect oryx, addax, and damas.

I applaud y'all! But at least acknowledge the fact that without HF's this conservation effort would have failed.


rancher, I am having a hard time making the leap that you have that 90% of conservation is accomplished by HF. HF, LF doesn't really matter to me what someone hunts on, but please explain how the HF is responsible for conservation.




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The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.

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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.


Thanks BOBO, I guess I can understand that. Wouldn't they have the same success here in TX on LF?




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Originally Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
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The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.


Thanks BOBO, I guess I can understand that. Wouldn't they have the same success here in TX on LF?


Yes and no, if a big exotic walked past your stand...what's going to happen to it...

Also remember this a HF to an oryx or pronghorn or blk Buck, etc is a LF to a Whitetail. HF is a relative term.

Truthfully a HF(regardless of height) is only a deterant and then on top of that once you exceed that animals home range the fence is irrelevant.


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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
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The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.


Thanks BOBO, I guess I can understand that. Wouldn't they have the same success here in TX on LF?


Yes and no, if a big exotic walked past your stand...what's going to happen to it...

Also remember this a HF to an oryx or pronghorn or blk Buck, etc is a LF to a Whitetail. HF is a relative term.

Truthfully a HF(regardless of height) is only a deterant and then on top of that once you exceed that animals home range the fence is irrelevant.



Makes sense. Then also, if a LF property is large enough to exceed the home range then the same would hold true if the species were being managed there as well?

Not trying to be argumentative. I can see the justification for the HF in the context of better conservation, just maybe not the whole reason for its success.




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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
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The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.


Thanks BOBO, I guess I can understand that. Wouldn't they have the same success here in TX on LF?


Yes and no, if a big exotic walked past your stand...what's going to happen to it...

Also remember this a HF to an oryx or pronghorn or blk Buck, etc is a LF to a Whitetail. HF is a relative term.

Truthfully a HF(regardless of height) is only a deterant and then on top of that once you exceed that animals home range the fence is irrelevant.



You really need to do all those HF ranchers a favor and let them know how much $$$ they are wasting on all those useless and irrelevant HFs. There sure are a bunch of those ignoramuses. smile


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Many of the hunting concessions in Africa are in fact High Fence.... so does anyone know if this Rhino is in a High Fence Concession? Just curious.

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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
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The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.


Thanks BOBO, I guess I can understand that. Wouldn't they have the same success here in TX on LF?


Yes and no, if a big exotic walked past your stand...what's going to happen to it...

Also remember this a HF to an oryx or pronghorn or blk Buck, etc is a LF to a Whitetail. HF is a relative term.

Truthfully a HF(regardless of height) is only a deterant and then on top of that once you exceed that animals home range the fence is irrelevant.



You really need to do all those HF ranchers a favor and let them know how much $$$ they are wasting on all those useless and irrelevant HFs. There sure are a bunch of those ignoramuses. smile


This is what private land ownership conservationist do. They put in a lot of their time, effort and personal capital to provide wildlife with proper management and habitat....then some along the way save wildlife which otherwise would be facing extinction. I say thank you to those dedicated private land owners. smile


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Africa is a whole different ballgame. A whole bunch of factors that simply do not apply to NA. (Rampant poaching, corrupt governments, terrible resource management in many areas, etc.)


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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
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Originally Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
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The HF and private landowners have saved many African species from extinction.

There are a few species of animals that their numbers are greater in TX then their native home.


Thanks BOBO, I guess I can understand that. Wouldn't they have the same success here in TX on LF?


Yes and no, if a big exotic walked past your stand...what's going to happen to it...

Also remember this a HF to an oryx or pronghorn or blk Buck, etc is a LF to a Whitetail. HF is a relative term.

Truthfully a HF(regardless of height) is only a deterant and then on top of that once you exceed that animals home range the fence is irrelevant.



You really need to do all those HF ranchers a favor and let them know how much $$$ they are wasting on all those useless and irrelevant HFs. There sure are a bunch of those ignoramuses. smile


Wow, how can someone get to your level of education yet totally loose sight or dismiss the habitats and nature instincts of the animals they hunt.....

Is saddens me you have zero knowledge of the animals you hunt outside of see...shot...kill... wall

Oh I forgot you bought a ticket to SCI and a membership to B$C-----OUTSTANDING you are a true conservationist...


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I bet he starts to believe his on ramblings some times... rofl

Now Africa is doing it wrong roflmao


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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Africa is a whole different ballgame. A whole bunch of factors that simply do not apply to NA. (Rampant poaching, corrupt governments, terrible resource management in many areas, etc.)


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Take the whitetail in my area of south Fannin county. They have lots of browse, grass, shade, cover, water sources, and crops. Yet the numbers appear to be low. So far my assessment of the problem has been narrowed down to two factors. Natural predators and poaching. I have three coyote packs within 3/4 mile of my meager 70 acres. And the man that farms the thousands of acres around me told me of almost monthly sightings of deer carcasses he finds near his cultivated land. The last occurance was in the second week of February. So it isn't a habitat, food or water problem, it is a man problem. But I'll be damned if I spend thousands to erect an 8' fence to contain Texas' deer. I will, however, make a piece of acreage they want to be on and feel mostly safe, if they so choose.


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Originally Posted By: TonyinVA
Many of the hunting concessions in Africa are in fact High Fence.... so does anyone know if this Rhino is in a High Fence Concession? Just curious.


Technically yes. They know that herds every move. They don't migrate because there is no need to. The concession exceeds their natural migratory range.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG

Take the whitetail in my area of south Fannin county. They have lots of browse, grass, shade, cover, water sources, and crops. Yet the numbers appear to be low. So far my assessment of the problem has been narrowed down to two factors. Natural predators and poaching. I have three coyote packs within 3/4 mile of my meager 70 acres. And the man that farms the thousands of acres around me told me of almost monthly sightings of deer carcasses he finds near his cultivated land. The last occurance was in the second week of February. So it isn't a habitat, food or water problem, it is a man problem. But I'll be damned if I spend thousands to erect an 8' fence to contain Texas' deer. I will, however, make a piece of acreage they want to be on and feel mostly safe, if they so choose.


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Just like the man who farms thousands of acres to HF. flag

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