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opinions on a quality hunting rifle #5670866 03/26/15 09:57 PM
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I know this thread has been done to death I am sure but here we go again

I need a hunting rifle for deer pigs etc

.308 and under $750 and must be stainless and synthetic are my requirements

I am looking at the Savage weather warrior 116 and the Tikka T3 Lite stainless

They both look like great rifles. I have read the trigger is better on the Tikka so I am leaning that way.

Any opinions or other similar rifles I am missing in that price range I should consider

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I think you already hit the nail on the head with the 2 options. See which you can find for cheaper and go for it.


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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
I think you already hit the nail on the head with the 2 options. See which you can find for cheaper and go for it.


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Somebody lied to you about a better trigger in the Tikka. The Savage is a great rifle, the Accustock on the Savage is far better then what comes on the Tikka. And something that is very much overlooked, but makes a huge difference in the shooter enjoying shooting a rifle, Savage has an awesome recoil pad.

I've shot older Savages in 308 that kicked like a steroided mule, and when I bought mine that was my first thought when I squeezed the trigger "oh boy here it comes" but I was wrong. Limbsaver and Pachmyer doesn't have anything on the Savage recoil pads.

Both will be good guns, but the Savage will be better


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Personally, I'd go with the Tikka T3 Lite Stainless first, then the Ruger Hawkeye Stainless, then the Savage. I have the first two rifles and don't want the third. But...that's just me.


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I would go Tikka T3.

I'm sure the Savage is fine. I just can't bring myself to buy one. Kinda like I am about a Dodge pickup. smile


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I personally like Savage but I have never fired a Tikka. I know a lot of people like Tikka on here so they can't be wrong. I went to Cabelas and picked one up, didn't thrill me to much. My brother just bought a Savage 6.5 Creedmoor with the Accustock for 800. Has a 24" fluted barrel, accutrigger breaks at 2 lbs, and the Accustock is much stiffer than other factory plastic stocks I have handled. We are doing load development this weekend, should be fun.

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Tikka and don't think twice about it!

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Tough decision thanks for the input guys. I am reading bad things about the recoil pad and stock on the the Tikka and how it is hard to load on top.

The Savage is made in the USA and I hear good things about the stock and butt pad.

Not sure how hard it is to load a savage by hand. Can anyone chime in?


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It's a center feed magazine, never had a problem loading from the top but I isually drop the magazine out to load anyways


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Originally Posted By: Bigfoot
Tough decision thanks for the input guys. I am reading bad things about the recoil pad and stock on the the Tikka and how it is hard to load on top.

The Savage is made in the USA and I hear good things about the stock and butt pad.

Not sure how hard it is to load a savage by hand. Can anyone chime in?



The people who are having a hard time loading the tikka by hand have other problems.

The Accustock is superior I'm sure. But the standard stock on my buddies new 116 is a horrible piece of crap. So be careful which you chose. The accutrigger is good if your used that style of trigger with the built in safety. The trigger on the tikka is excellent.

Side by side shooting they both shoot very well with the edge going to the tikka. Both are sub moa with hand loads. Just one more so than the other. Be very careful where you rest the fore end on the savage if you get the cheap stock.

The bolt throw alone makes all the difference for me. Easy to tell unloaded but far easier to tell when picking up a round out of the magazine. The tikka reigns supreme.

Edit: the butt pad on the tikka sucks. Bad. Mine get replaced with a limbsaver.

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Got a be different Remington 700 for me.

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Originally Posted By: Bigfoot
Tough decision thanks for the input guys. I am reading bad things about the recoil pad and stock on the the Tikka and how it is hard to load on top.

The Savage is made in the USA and I hear good things about the stock and butt pad.

Not sure how hard it is to load a savage by hand. Can anyone chime in?



Tikka has a small cut out similar to the Savage Axis/Remington 770. They are hard to load from the top which is why they come with detachable magazines. If I were to buy a Tikka today I would get the detachable magazine model. Also, if you buy a Tikka you will want a different stock for it so that adds to the cost. With the Savage you can get the Accustock and be set. IMO a Savage with Accustock and Accutrigger is the best out of the box package on the market.

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Originally Posted By: Bigfoot
Tough decision thanks for the input guys. I am reading bad things about the recoil pad and stock on the the Tikka and how it is hard to load on top.

The Savage is made in the USA and I hear good things about the stock and butt pad.

Not sure how hard it is to load a savage by hand. Can anyone chime in?



Tikka has a small cut out similar to the Savage Axis/Remington 770. They are hard to load from the top which is why they come with detachable magazines. If I were to buy a Tikka today I would get the detachable magazine model. Also, if you buy a Tikka you will want a different stock for it so that adds to the cost. With the Savage you can get the Accustock and be set. IMO a Savage with Accustock and Accutrigger is the best out of the box package on the market.


Does tikka make a model without a detachable mag?

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Originally Posted By: Bigfoot
Tough decision thanks for the input guys. I am reading bad things about the recoil pad and stock on the the Tikka and how it is hard to load on top.

The Savage is made in the USA and I hear good things about the stock and butt pad.

Not sure how hard it is to load a savage by hand. Can anyone chime in?



Tikka has a small cut out similar to the Savage Axis/Remington 770. They are hard to load from the top which is why they come with detachable magazines. If I were to buy a Tikka today I would get the detachable magazine model. Also, if you buy a Tikka you will want a different stock for it so that adds to the cost. With the Savage you can get the Accustock and be set. IMO a Savage with Accustock and Accutrigger is the best out of the box package on the market.


Does tikka make a model without a detachable mag?


You're right, they don't, my mistake. I was thinking about their new CTR's with the 10 round magazine.

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Got a be different Remington 700 for me.


My vote as well.

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I'm on my 4th Tikka & 3rd T3 ...and they've all shot out of the box with no tuning. Gotta luv those SAKO barrels.

I'm not a fan of the synthetic T3 stock & the wood Hunter stock is a little plain too, but there are lots of options, from $100-$250+ plain vanilla Boyd's drop in that are fully finished to your choice of laminates or 5 grades and kind of wood & 5 stock styles with your choice of LOP, butt pad,cut checkering yadda yadda to B&C Medallions & Manners.

NONE ...I Say Again ... NONE of my Tikka's have needed the barrel broken in. The barrel is prolly still hand swaged like the SAKO's are. Get a price on THAT from the Savage Custom Shop...

Other options include a 5 round mag & the 10 Round CTR mag that'll need a conversion kit is also a bolt on DYI option albeit at some spendy bux.

I bought my last T3 from Bud's at less than MSRP & shipped Free...and NO Remmy style recalls either....ever.

PS the SAKO RoughTec is a stepped up T3 and worth the xtra bux...
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The factory Tikka stock was just too much of a piece of junk for me to consider it, especially at the price. And since I was in the market for a heavy barrel model, the Tikka Varmint was significantly more expensive (around $300) more than a comparable Savage.

I don't think you'll be disappointed in a Tikka, but I think you'll enjoy shooting the Savage more. That was my conclusion after extensive comparison shopping and research anyway.

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For that matter, I'd be surprised if you could get a stainless Tikka for $750 new out-the-door.

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I am sure Tikkas are great, but stock Savages have been used to win National shooting competitions.



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Buy the Savage, and spend the "extra" money on better optics.
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For that matter, I'd be surprised if you could get a stainless Tikka for $750 new out-the-door.


$678 + FFL from Bud's (no tax, free shipping).

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For that matter, I'd be surprised if you could get a stainless Tikka for $750 new out-the-door.


$678 + FFL from Bud's (no tax, free shipping).
I'm surprised. LGS that usually has good prices has it listed at $780.

Regardless, I got my varmint barrel Savage for $400 from Dick's ($579 with 10% off for signing up for a card minus $75 back for selling the scope it came with minus a $50 mail-in rebate minus $40 in rewards points). Not stainless, but it's got a better stock with two front swivel studs and I had hundreds left to spare over a comparable Tikka.

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