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Open Carry #5654428 03/17/15 03:40 AM
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Open Carry passes in Texas 20 to 11 beginning 1-1-2016. What says THF? stir


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Meh. To each their own, I guess.

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Bout time! I'll still carry concealed but we should have the option


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I'm probably the only CHL holder around who dislikes open carry.

Worst case: There's always some crazy guy who will fly off the handle and steal your sidearm and start shooting.

Best case: Openly packing heat in a restaurant, store, college, etc. makes others uneasy and can intimidate.

Concealed carry just allows you to blend in and bothers no one. And CC allows the same personal defense protection as OP.

But I'm just a voice in the wilderness, it seems.


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Dawaba, I just don't see it happening, either one of your scenarios. Almost every other state in the union has open carry of some sort and no mass pandemonium has ensued.

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Originally Posted By: dawaba
I'm probably the only CHL holder around who dislikes open carry.

Worst case: There's always some crazy guy who will fly off the handle and steal your sidearm and start shooting.

Best case: Openly packing heat in a restaurant, store, college, etc. makes others uneasy and can intimidate.

Concealed carry just allows you to blend in and bothers no one. And CC allows the same personal defense protection as OP.

But I'm just a voice in the wilderness, it seems.


I'm with you, I will still CC but at least there will not be an issue if I fail to conceal by accident.


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It's only passed the Senate, it's now at the house, if it passes the house then it will go to Gov Abbott's desk


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Re: Open Carry [Re: 6InARowMakeItGo] #5654803 03/17/15 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Thundervee
It's only passed the Senate, it's now at the house, if it passes the house then it will go to Gov Abbott's desk
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with 2/3 of the house being Republicans, I believe it will pass easily..
With that said though, MEH.


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Originally Posted By: DTCOOPER
with 2/3 of the house being Republicans, I believe it will pass easily..
With that said though, MEH.


I am with you.

BUT, you do see the irony with ending your post with 'MEH' and your sig block reference to apathy, right?

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Originally Posted By: Thundervee
It's only passed the Senate, it's now at the house, if it passes the house then it will go to Gov Abbott's desk


It also states that open carry will only be allowed by current CHL holders, not general public. Plus has the provision for business to restrict the open carry by proper signage but I have not figured out what they mean by proper signage, will it be just the standard 30.06 or will they create a new sign for restricting OC but still allowing CC?


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How will they enforce it? Can LE legally check someone just because they are openly carrying a sidearm? Can they check you if you "might" be breaking the law? Similar to scenarios we've seen before.

I like GLC'a comment as far as if it accidentally come visible, at least you're covered.

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If it passes it will be effective 9/1/15.

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Originally Posted By: dawaba
I'm probably the only CHL holder around who dislikes open carry.

Worst case: There's always some crazy guy who will fly off the handle and steal your sidearm and start shooting.

Best case: Openly packing heat in a restaurant, store, college, etc. makes others uneasy and can intimidate.

Concealed carry just allows you to blend in and bothers no one. And CC allows the same personal defense protection as OP.

But I'm just a voice in the wilderness, it seems.


I'm with you. It's going to be a bad day when I take a report of an armed robbery where he took the gun out of the victims holster because they had their hands full and left the gun exposed and unprotected.


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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: dawaba
I'm probably the only CHL holder around who dislikes open carry.

Worst case: There's always some crazy guy who will fly off the handle and steal your sidearm and start shooting.

Best case: Openly packing heat in a restaurant, store, college, etc. makes others uneasy and can intimidate.

Concealed carry just allows you to blend in and bothers no one. And CC allows the same personal defense protection as OP.

But I'm just a voice in the wilderness, it seems.


I'm with you. It's going to be a bad day when I take a report of an armed robbery where he took the gun out of the victims holster because they had their hands full and left the gun exposed and unprotected.


Because this happens with such frequency in the 44 states that allow open carry? But thank you for thinking for all of the plebs. You obviously know best for everyone.

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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Originally Posted By: dawaba
I'm probably the only CHL holder around who dislikes open carry.

Worst case: There's always some crazy guy who will fly off the handle and steal your sidearm and start shooting.

Best case: Openly packing heat in a restaurant, store, college, etc. makes others uneasy and can intimidate.

Concealed carry just allows you to blend in and bothers no one. And CC allows the same personal defense protection as OP.

But I'm just a voice in the wilderness, it seems.


I'm with you. It's going to be a bad day when I take a report of an armed robbery where he took the gun out of the victims holster because they had their hands full and left the gun exposed and unprotected.


I figure thieves break into homes to steal guns. I have a CHL but I will never open carry because I don't want to get clubbed over the head by a punk that just wants my gun.
And I tend to think that the whole open carry thing is going to take "short man syndrome" to a whole new level. Right up there with the guys (some guys, clearly not all) that have a full front end bumper replacement on there truck, and think they are suddenly a bad a__.
It just makes me think that you are picking a fight if you have an open gun. When the testosterone gets pumping, I bet some will challenge you, just daring you to pull it on them.
But I also think you have a right to open carry already, seems odd to think that we are making a law that says you can have the rights that the Constitution already gave you.


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Open Carry passes in Texas 20 to 11 beginning 1-1-2016. What says THF? stir



Not possible. The experts of THF have informedme multiple times that the open carry d-bags have made the prospect of open carry being voted in an impossibility... Then again, they are the same folks crying about blood in the streets, even though Texas is 1 of 6 states that don't allow open carry, and there have been no incidents of blood in the streets in all of the other 44 states that have open carry.

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Yep, those other 44 states must have blood in the streets and folks getting their weapons stolen off their hip at every turn rolleyes


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I'm all for it. I don't have to change a thing with my carry, but if I wonder into a 7-11 to get ice for a fresh killed hog, I don't have to remove my sidearm.

No worries about failing to conceal either, that's my main thing.

AND... For crying out loud, use a secure holster that can't be yanked on successfully if you open carry. That's just common sense. OOOHHH, now I see a problem...

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I'm all for it so long as the signage is different for open carry. If the signage is 30.06 we will see a lot more place that put it up due to open carry.

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Originally Posted By: Thundervee
Yep, those other 44 states must have blood in the streets and folks getting their weapons stolen off their hip at every turn rolleyes


It will call for heightened situational awareness on the part of the person carrying. Open carry also makes one a target because you are definitely drawing attention to yourself, unless of course you are just one unbelievably bad azz gunfighter. rolleyes

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Perhaps the news report that I watched on Channel 13 in Houston was incorrect, but it said that an additional permit, above the CHL, would be required, for an additional fee I'm sure. The report also mentioned an additional training course being required.

Hope it was wrong.


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A benefit that I see with open carry is that private businesses and events could provide their own security.

After all, a private citizen, when on private property, probably has fewer restrictions on their legal use of a firearm, than an LEO.


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Yep, those other 44 states must have blood in the streets and folks getting their weapons stolen off their hip at every turn rolleyes


It will call for heightened situational awareness on the part of the person carrying. Open carry also makes one a target because you are definitely drawing attention to yourself, unless of course you are just one unbelievably bad azz gunfighter. rolleyes

Well, can you show me where in another open carry state the peeps have a target because they had a handgun on their hip? Like I said, if it was as big of an issue as some of y'all seem to think it will be, then the majority of the state's must have all sorts of carnage caused by it, so, show me popcorn


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The report also mentioned an additional training course being required.

Hope it was wrong.


I hope it's not. The CHL classes don't cover near enough, and the qualification is a joke. My SIL couldn't rack the slide on my pistol, and still passed.

Certainly not against open carry, even tho it's not for me. My husband has no idea what contents are laying in the bottom of my purse. Why in hell would I let a stranger know what's on my hip.

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