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#5653990 - 03/16/15 06:04 PM help me choose my magnification
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I'm about to purchase a new Nightforce NXS to go on a 308 bolt gun for hunting at ranges from 100-600 yards. The gun is a relatively lightweight unit, and I'd like to stay with that theme on the optics as closely as possible. Fairly positive that Nightforce is the choice for me. I'd like to think I could get away with the 2.5-10x42, but I am worried that I might end up wishing I had gone with the 3.5-15X50, even though it's much bigger and heavier. Opinions? What's the minimum magnification you're comfortable taking medium sized game with at 600 yards?

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#5654062 - 03/16/15 06:59 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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Either will do just fine. If weight were a concern, I'd choose the 2.5-10.

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#5654108 - 03/16/15 07:30 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5x47Lapua
Either will do just fine. If weight were a concern, I'd choose the 2.5-10.


Yup.

If it were me, I'd say to heck with a few ounces and get the 3-15X
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#5654144 - 03/16/15 07:56 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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10 ounces heavier, 4 1/2" longer for the 3.5-15x50.....


Edited by Crews (03/16/15 07:58 PM)

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#5654179 - 03/16/15 08:14 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5x47Lapua
Either will do just fine. If weight were a concern, I'd choose the 2.5-10.


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#5654253 - 03/16/15 08:47 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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That's a lot of coin for a hunting scope. But I would go 3-15 if you will honestly be looking to kill at 600yds
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#5654347 - 03/16/15 09:30 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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Take a look at this thread for through-the-scope images of 10x and 15x magnification on a 600 yard target. There is a significant difference. If you're shooting over 400 yards, I think the extra magnification is worth more than half a pound of weight.

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#5654473 - 03/16/15 11:34 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: BigPig]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
That's a lot of coin for a hunting scope. But I would go 3-15 if you will honestly be looking to kill at 600yds
this, and the one below it. 600 is way out there.
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#5654531 - 03/17/15 05:40 AM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
That's a lot of coin for a hunting scope. But I would go 3-15 if you will honestly be looking to kill at 600yds
this, and the one below it. 600 is way out there.



The idea that you need more and more magnification runs rampant on this forum. Of course you can hit a 8 inch target at 600 yards with a 10 power scope. The optics are up to task. Now if he is trying to count points on a deer, that is another story all together.

The better question should be, is the shooter willing to put in the work to make these kind of shots? No amount of magnification will make that shot for you. It always comes back to the basics. Know the exact range, a rangefinder is preferred. Dope it. Make a proper wind call. And finally, execute the fundamentals of shooting.

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#5654558 - 03/17/15 06:19 AM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: 6.5x47Lapua]
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Originally Posted By: 6.5x47Lapua
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: BigPig
That's a lot of coin for a hunting scope. But I would go 3-15 if you will honestly be looking to kill at 600yds
this, and the one below it. 600 is way out there.



The idea that you need more and more magnification runs rampant on this forum. Of course you can hit a 8 inch target at 600 yards with a 10 power scope. The optics are up to task. Now if he is trying to count points on a deer, that is another story all together.

The better question should be, is the shooter willing to put in the work to make these kind of shots? No amount of magnification will make that shot for you. It always comes back to the basics. Know the exact range, a rangefinder is preferred. Dope it. Make a proper wind call. And finally, execute the fundamentals of shooting.



Fully agree with you, not 600 yards but have used scopes set at lower power levels like 2.5 to 6 on yotes at ranges out to a little over 300 yards. Deer sized game my longest shots are a little over 500 yards, all shots made that far were with 3-9 power scopes set on max setting. Have missed one elk that was about 570 yards, the guide with the range finder said it was 490, had killed a pronghorn the day before at 509 so held the same for the elk, scraped hair off brisket and hit meat portion of off side leg on slight quartering away shot. Had I held for 560 that would have been a very nice 5X5 bull.

Have a 2.5X10 scope on the way for a 6.5 Grendel build, plan on having fun with it shooting longer range out to 1k. Figure on game will keep it inside 400 yards. 2.5-10 with good glass like is in Night Force Scopes should be no problem killing deer out to 5 or 600 yards if the shooter and rifle are up to the task of making that length shots. Now like said above it counting points is part of the task then go for higher magnification. I just do not like extra bulk and weight on a light weight hunting rifle.



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#5654592 - 03/17/15 06:57 AM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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I've always been a 300 yard guy, but it's time to take my game to the next level. I am well aware of what it takes to put rounds on target at 600 yards, and I have a lot of work to do before I'm able to do so. This equipment will be used in conjunction with a pair of Leica HD-B 10x42's. My default is going with as little magnification as I can get away with.

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#5654604 - 03/17/15 07:09 AM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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Their scopes are to,dang big most the time. If I had to add 4" and half pound I woukd save and he the atacr fi in a normal size or buy another brand with a decent weight. Jmo

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#5654611 - 03/17/15 07:12 AM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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10X will certainly do it.

Yesterday evening I did my usual cold bore shot at distance, I picked the 600 yard plate. I shot it on 20X.

Why? The more magnification, the more disciminatory you can be on you hold on target. It also reveals what you are doing wrong to cause a flubbed shot.
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#5654991 - 03/17/15 12:06 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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I'm also kinda considering a Swaro Z5 3.5x18x44... It's only 16oz and I think it might also be a pretty solid repeatable scope. More magnifocation than I need, but it's so light it's a non-issue.

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#5655019 - 03/17/15 12:25 PM Re: help me choose my magnification [Re: Crews]
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Originally Posted By: Crews
I'm also kinda considering a Swaro Z5 3.5x18x44... It's only 16oz and I think it might also be a pretty solid repeatable scope. More magnifocation than I need, but it's so light it's a non-issue.


Just remember, all these scopes you have mentioned are sfp. That means the swarovski brh has basically a fixed 18 power reticle, same goes for the other two at 10 and 15x. Anything under max power and those reticles are only useful as a cross hair.

Unless you were considering the nightforce f1, of course.

You are wasting the all important field of view when using these high powered optics. Especially inside 600 yards.

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