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#5651369 - 03/14/15 05:23 PM Where to get DNA testing done.
TonyinVA Offline
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Can anyone recommend any laboratories that do DNA testing on wild animals. Specifically want to DNA test to see what results show on a huge coyote that was shot here in VA. See link below.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5645501/Huge_Coyote#Post5645501


Edited by TonyinVA (03/14/15 05:24 PM)

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#5651379 - 03/14/15 05:45 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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Here is one company but not sure they would be able to do what you are wanting.
https://www.dnasolutionsusa.com/
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#5651381 - 03/14/15 05:50 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: stxranchman]
TonyinVA Offline
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Here is one company but not sure they would be able to do what you are wanting.
https://www.dnasolutionsusa.com/


Looks like they test to identify a specific animal by its DNA.

I did some Goggling found two universities that did wolf X coyote DNA testing for some studies and also found a private firm.

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#5651394 - 03/14/15 06:01 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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Try UCal-Davis link They can do it, but I don't know if they need to do a custom test or just a standard test, interpreted against their canine diversity data base.


Edited by nsmike (03/14/15 06:02 PM)
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#5651425 - 03/14/15 06:35 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: nsmike]
TonyinVA Offline
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Originally Posted By: nsmike
Try UCal-Davis link They can do it, but I don't know if they need to do a custom test or just a standard test, interpreted against their canine diversity data base.


That was one of the ones I found.... they actually have a wolf-dog hybrid test (see link below) I had already emailed them.

https://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/wolf.php


Edited by TonyinVA (03/14/15 06:43 PM)

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#5651441 - 03/14/15 06:49 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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My point is if your looking for coyote/dog/wolf mixing, I know they can do it, but it may need to be specially ordered. They should have the data base, but I don't know if ordering a standard test, will get them to specifically identify coyote/other.
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#5651459 - 03/14/15 07:10 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: nsmike]
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Well...I am curious what the big coyote has in his pedigree..hopefully we'll find out.

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#5651517 - 03/14/15 08:04 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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You might check with the local Petsmart in your area, I know they refer DNA to an independent lab that can test as to the pedigree of dogs and possibly as to canines in general. Quick phone call would find out if they can, and if not someone in your area.
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#5651695 - 03/14/15 10:14 PM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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I would check with any local Veterinarian, they probably could tell you if a local or close Vet school that might have the facilities for testing.
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#5651820 - 03/15/15 01:19 AM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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If taken in northern Virginia, you probably don't need a dna test for a safe assumption of your yote having wolf dna. It is a common dna makeup of the population there.

http://jmammal.oxfordjournals.org/content/jmammal/92/5/1070.full.pdf

http://www.easterncoyoteresearch.com/downloads/CoywolfTaxonomy&BodyMassCFN2013.pdf
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#5651934 - 03/15/15 09:09 AM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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Jerry Springer used to be a pretty good resource for DNA testing.

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#5651970 - 03/15/15 09:52 AM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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We are going to start by contacting the Wildlife Departments at VATECH and have then help locate a lab since we want a very good lab to do the work.

Thanks guys for all the suggestions.

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#5652045 - 03/15/15 10:59 AM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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Dr Phylis Canion is the lady that had the Cuero Chupacabra years ago. I think Texas State University did some research on it. My Dad loaned her a live chicken trap for the documentary they filmed on it a few years ago.
I need to go by her office and see about getting it back. Do you want me to see if she used an independent lab or what her process was?
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#5652111 - 03/15/15 11:51 AM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: Kbar Ag Service]
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Originally Posted By: Kbar Ag Service
Dr Phylis Canion is the lady that had the Cuero Chupacabra years ago. I think Texas State University did some research on it. My Dad loaned her a live chicken trap for the documentary they filmed on it a few years ago.
I need to go by her office and see about getting it back. Do you want me to see if she used an independent lab or what her process was?


Can't hurt but I think we are covered....I emailed a few people including one who is connected with the Smithsonian. PM me if you get anything good.

As an aside, what we really want to know is if that 82 pound coyote was a HUGE naturally occurring coyote-wolf hybrid which is the case for most Eastern Coyotes (Coyote x Great Lakes Wolf) or if it was an escaped wolf-dog hybrid that someone intentionally bred and escaped. The fact that it was running with other normal sized coyotes seems to rule out the wolf-dog hybrid. That said, the size is unusually large.

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#5652114 - 03/15/15 11:54 AM Re: Where to get DNA testing done. [Re: TonyinVA]
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Ill try to get by there tomorrow.
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