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#5644840 - 03/10/15 11:25 AM Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp)
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Anyone familiar with the procedure for notifying the ATF that you have moved? I'm pretty sure there are steps you must take once you have moved from the location that is listed on the application my stamp is on?

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#5644892 - 03/10/15 12:02 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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There is an ongoing discussion on this one. Most people who feel like they have to just send in a form 5320.20. But its really for interstate travel.

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#5644914 - 03/10/15 12:20 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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ATF requests that you file a 5320 with the new address. It's not a law, just a request

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#5644926 - 03/10/15 12:30 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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Thanks for the responses

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#5645201 - 03/10/15 04:02 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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Another questions similar to this one.....Do you need to keep a copy of the stamp on you when you're out shooting/hunting? If so, will a picture on the phone work or does it need to be an actual copy?
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#5645239 - 03/10/15 04:29 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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I keep a copy of the stamp along with a copy of my trust with me/my suppressor always. the trust is 16 pages long, so I shrank it down so that I can fit 4 'pages' per side. Now it fits on 2 pieces of paper printed front and back. Folded up in a zpiloc bag.

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#5645285 - 03/10/15 04:57 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: TCB]
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Originally Posted By: TCB
Another questions similar to this one.....Do you need to keep a copy of the stamp on you when you're out shooting/hunting? If so, will a picture on the phone work or does it need to be an actual copy?


You are not required to. I called and talked to ATF on this and that was their answer. However, I always keep it on me...just in case.

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#5645326 - 03/10/15 05:30 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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Chip, that's the first time I've heard someone say that. My lawyer said to keep a full copy of the trust and a copy of the stamp with the NFA items any time I take them out.
I was also wondering if I could just keep a copy on my phone. They send eFiled stamps electronically.
Silencershop recommended taking it to Kinkos and have the stamps shrunk to business card size so they are easy to carry.
I would think an electronic copy on my phone would be easier to read than a business card. Well, unless the phone battery goes dead.
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#5645492 - 03/10/15 07:17 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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Are they looking for just the stamp or all of information on that page. I like the idea of having is shrunk down to a credit card size for the wallet.
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#5645791 - 03/10/15 09:57 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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I would think it should be all the info on the page since it's got the serial number and everything else on the page. Otherwise you could just have a picture of a stamp and say it applies to any number of SBRs. Someone's got to have a good printer and really good eyes to read that fine print.

I usually have a copy of all the paperwork in each gun case behind the padding so anytime I put a gun in any case, it should be there. I also have a copy in the truck at all times as a backup.
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#5645813 - 03/10/15 10:13 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: TCB]
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Originally Posted By: TCB
Are they looking for just the stamp or all of information on that page. I like the idea of having is shrunk down to a credit card size for the wallet.


You do not know who, when or where you may be asked to see the paperwork. The simpler things are for the LEO, the easier things will be on your end.

This is the reason why I have my forms in my individual name, but I'm lucky that my sheriff will sign off on NFA items. If someone stops me and asks to see the paperwork, I have a full size 8 1/2 x 11 copy of my form with the sheriff's sign off on it. That will satisfy most LEO's if they are looking at it. If I'm on the side of the road with a rookie, that probably is not the time to start having to explain the ins and outs of trusts and the NFA, or he or she is going to let the NFA holder explain it to the boss downtown. Just my take on it. Keep it easy to read and simple for everyone.

And a side note, don't judge books by their cover. My sheriff is black, a Democrat, in Travis County. I've meet with him twice in person for NFA sign offs. He is professional and personable and told me he likes good citizens to be armed as it helps them. He is a good man.

The white "conservative Republican" in the adjacent county, Williamson, does not believe citizens should own NFA items and will not sign off.

So, take time to meet people and judge them by their actions, not their color or labels.

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#5645878 - 03/10/15 10:50 PM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: TCB]
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Originally Posted By: TCB
Another questions similar to this one.....Do you need to keep a copy of the stamp on you when you're out shooting/hunting? If so, will a picture on the phone work or does it need to be an actual copy?


You always need a copy on you. It says on the form:

"Proof of Registration: This approved application is the registrant’s proof of registration and it shall be made available to any ATF officer upon request."

To me, that means you better have it on you at all times.

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#5646095 - 03/11/15 07:22 AM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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I just keep a binder of full sized copies locked in my truck. I found it easier to have one binder will all forms than to try to put a form in the case with the guns.

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#5646107 - 03/11/15 07:30 AM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: ETexas Hunter]
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Ok, so as long as you can produce them in short order (IE: Gun case or truck) but don't necessarily have to have it on your person.
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#5646139 - 03/11/15 07:47 AM Re: Procedure for notifying the ATF that I have moved (stamp) [Re: BCJ]
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Originally Posted By: BCJ
I just keep a binder of full sized copies locked in my truck. I found it easier to have one binder will all forms than to try to put a form in the case with the guns.


I do the same but mine are high quality 1/2 size. I also keep PDF copies on my phone.
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