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#5642454 - 03/09/15 08:03 AM ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake
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Edited by TonyinVA (03/09/15 08:05 AM)

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#5642580 - 03/09/15 09:29 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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#5642642 - 03/09/15 10:10 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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can u say backpeddle
I knew u could
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#5642664 - 03/09/15 10:25 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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Oh crap they noticed

Put plan C the crawfisb plan into effect.
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#5642707 - 03/09/15 10:54 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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I heard some member of the Obama administration say on the radio today that this is the "most transparent administration in history". I almost drove my truck off the side of the highway.
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#5642744 - 03/09/15 11:16 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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#5642766 - 03/09/15 11:29 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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I wonder how many loaded up ridiculous amounts of ammo and now stuck with it....
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#5642786 - 03/09/15 11:37 AM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: Navasot]
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I wonder how many loaded up ridiculous amounts of ammo and now stuck with it....


Yup.

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#5642823 - 03/09/15 12:10 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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The way I read it, people are confused. They are still seeking public comment on proposed framework for FUTURE CLASSIFICATION. What they are calling a publication error regards the 2014 Regulation Guide already in print. IE...what started this all off is still unchanged.


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On Feb. 13, 2015, ATF released for public comment a proposed framework, including legal and technical analysis, to guide its determination on what ammunition is "primarily intended for sporting purposes" for purposes of granting exemptions to the Gun Control Actís prohibition on Armor Piecing Ammunition. This proposed framework is posted for public comment only; no final decisions have been made as to its adoption.


Media reports have noted that the 2014 ATF Regulation Guide published online does not contain a listing of the exemptions for Armor Piercing Ammunition, and concluding that the absence of this listing indicates these exemptions have been rescinded.

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#5642826 - 03/09/15 12:12 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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That's how I read it.. The proposal is still on the table..
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#5642827 - 03/09/15 12:13 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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But to answer the question, I sold my stash on gunbroker for twice what I paid for it..
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#5642829 - 03/09/15 12:15 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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#5642858 - 03/09/15 12:29 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: T Bone]
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That's how I read it.. The proposal is still on the table..


kind of what i walk away with

still created one heck of a scare, ammo prices doubled and is sold out in alot of places

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#5642875 - 03/09/15 12:41 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: jbd76266]
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Originally Posted By: jbd76266
The way I read it, people are confused. They are still seeking public comment on proposed framework for FUTURE CLASSIFICATION. What they are calling a publication error regards the 2014 Regulation Guide already in print. IE...what started this all off is still unchanged.


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On Feb. 13, 2015, ATF released for public comment a proposed framework, including legal and technical analysis, to guide its determination on what ammunition is "primarily intended for sporting purposes" for purposes of granting exemptions to the Gun Control Act’s prohibition on Armor Piecing Ammunition. This proposed framework is posted for public comment only; no final decisions have been made as to its adoption.


Media reports have noted that the 2014 ATF Regulation Guide published online does not contain a listing of the exemptions for Armor Piercing Ammunition, and concluding that the absence of this listing indicates these exemptions have been rescinded.


I hope they honestly publish the the public comment.

They won't though, because it will be detrimental to their case. Plus, yet again, it will make them look like the idiots that they are.
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#5643126 - 03/09/15 02:36 PM Re: ATF Claims Ammo Ban was a publishing mistake [Re: TonyinVA]
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Guys...this is from the ATF Website.....READ IT..the Feb 13 release was (according to them) a publishing error because they failed to include the 223/556 ammo in the sporting exemption. Whether this is a new twist to "cover their azz" or not who knows..... but the way I read this I do not think the "ban" is still on the table. Here is the website and I pasted in the text so everyone can read it. THAT SAID, WE NEED TO WATCH THIS PRESIDENT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON"T TRY TO SNEAK ANYTHING THROUGH.

http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/Library/Publications/notice_of_publishing_error.pdf


Notice of Publishing Error

On Feb. 13, 2015, ATF released for public comment a proposed framework, including legal and technical analysis, to guide its determination on what ammunition is "primarily intended for sporting purposes" for purposes of granting exemptions to the Gun Control Actís prohibition on Armor Piecing Ammunition. This proposed framework is posted for public comment only; no final decisions have been made as to its adoption.
Media reports have noted that the 2014 ATF Regulation Guide published online does not contain a listing of the exemptions for Armor Piercing Ammunition, and concluding that the absence of this listing indicates these exemptions have been rescinded.

Please be advised that ATF has not rescinded any Armor Piercing Ammunition exemption, and the fact they are not listed in the 2014 online edition of the regulations, was an error, which has no legal impact on the validity of the exemptions. The existing exemptions for armor piercing ammunition, which apply to 5.56 mm (.223) SS 109 and M855 projectiles (identified by a green coating on the projectile tip), and the U.S .30-06 M2AP projectile (identified by a black coating on the projectile tip), remain in effect.
The listing of Armor Piercing Ammunition exemptions can be found in the 2005 ATF Regulation Guide on page 166, which is posted here.

The 2014 Regulation Guide will be corrected in PDF format to include the listing of Armor Piercing Ammunition exemptions and posted shortly. The e-book/iBook version of the Regulation Guide will be corrected in the near future. ATF apologizes for any confusion caused by this publishing error.



Edited by TonyinVA (03/09/15 02:39 PM)

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