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#5634837 - 03/04/15 08:28 PM I have a question
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I know that their are a lot of variables to weigh and consider, but do yall think their would be much difference in the deer between two leases that are 7 miles apart? I can understand the #s being similar but my question is quality? Im not looking for game managed and protein fed type answers. Looking for answers based on natural foliage etc.. Do take in consideration that the layouts such as elevation changes etc. are different. One of the leases is also about twice the size as the other with only one gun more and neighbor hunting pressure is similar for both.
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#5634876 - 03/04/15 08:47 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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I don't think you can compare two areas without considering management or lack thereof. The number of guns on the place, the number of deer taken, the age of the deer taken, the neighbors hunting pressure, and so on.

If you want to say "all things being equal", then the answer is still yes. Foliage, agriculture practices, livestock, and overall terrain can make a big difference. The biggest difference I have seen between two places, and they were less than 2 miles, was the river bottoms. The lowlands typically have very good soil and produce vegetation that promotes a healthier herd.

Just my 2cents
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#5634890 - 03/04/15 08:51 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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#5634915 - 03/04/15 09:01 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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300, all things being similar, I think there could be differences but minor. +/- 10-20lbs. on weights and +/- 10" on antler growth.

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#5634916 - 03/04/15 09:02 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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These are based on avgs. of course

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#5634923 - 03/04/15 09:04 PM Re: I have a question [Re: txshntr]
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Originally Posted By: txshntr
I don't think you can compare two areas without considering management or lack thereof. The number of guns on the place, the number of deer taken, the age of the deer taken, the neighbors hunting pressure, and so on.

If you want to say "all things being equal", then the answer is still yes. Foliage, agriculture practices, livestock, and overall terrain can make a big difference. The biggest difference I have seen between two places, and they were less than 2 miles, was the river bottoms. The lowlands typically have very good soil and produce vegetation that promotes a healthier herd.

Just my 2cents


Exactly. And don't think the numbers can't be different. I've hunted places that were far superior in numbers and quality to places that were way less than seven miles apart, maybe as little as one or two....both belonging to the same co-op and under the same management practices.

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#5634948 - 03/04/15 09:18 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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Thx guys, that's the type of feedback I am looking for. Keep it coming please.
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#5635248 - 03/05/15 07:01 AM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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Definitely can be different. I hunt two places just like you described, about 7-8 miles apart. One is covered in deer, the other not so much. The high density area has a tad smaller deer. The lower density area has better quality.
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#5635300 - 03/05/15 07:44 AM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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I agree with what the others have said. It can make a difference based on many variables

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#5636046 - 03/05/15 12:39 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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7 miles can make a huge difference or no difference, depending on the size, location & habitat. Too many variables...

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#5636059 - 03/05/15 12:46 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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It's unanswerable. Too many variables.
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#5636360 - 03/05/15 03:16 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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I've seen situations vary from year to year. One year a great herd the next hardly see a deer. My place is feast or famine. Got lots of deer one year and few the next. Same thing happens on the other place 7 or miles down the road. This year I saw few on my place but lots on the other. Last year we hardly saw deer at the other place and lots on mine. Can never tell what the next year will be like.
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#5636553 - 03/05/15 05:26 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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A lot will also depend on livestock on the places. We had a lease that was terribly over grazed and had very few deer while the places to our east, south and west had a good healthy deer population. So as little as the width of a county road can make a huge difference.
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#5636686 - 03/05/15 06:40 PM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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On 1,000acres, being devided into 2 seperate or 1 big lease. Their will be differance between #'s & size of deer. flag
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#5637665 - 03/06/15 09:43 AM Re: I have a question [Re: 300j]
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Without seeing both properties and knowing all the other particulars it is impossible to say which is better. I have larger places that were not near as good as a smaller place due to the hunting and grazing pressures on/around it.
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